Talk:Cape Henry Memorial

Page move

I moved the page to align with the designated National Park Service title of the memorial and to avoid ambiguity.--MONGO 11:12, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

I am thinking this article should be moved back to Cape Henry and the content from Cape Henry Light moved here, and possibly that from Fort Story. Also, First Landing State Park should probably redirect here as well. Currently there are three short articles (and probably a fourth in the future) related this geographic feature that could be logically merged. — Eoghanacht ^talk 20:53, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

I partially agree. Cape Henry is a lot more than just the Cape Henry Memorial, which is only one of the things located there. I think that separate article on Fort Story, Cape Henry Memorial, Cape Henry Lighthouse, and even First Landing State Park are not inappropriate, so long as they are not too duplicative, and contain internal links to each other. It is not necessary to lump all related subjects into one page; under that thinking,m why not just move all of this to the Virginia Beach article, then move all off that to Virginia, etc.

Since I created these articles (except the one not yet written about First Landing State Park, which was formerly Seashore Sate Park, which is not totally at Cape Henry anyway), I will set about repairing them unless there is a consensus otherwise. Mark in Historic Triangle Vaoverland 21:20, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Maybe what I find most odd is that Cape Henry redirects here (or until recently did). Perhaps the answer is to merge the Cape Henry Memorial content to Colonial National Historical Park, rename this article, and maybe (or maybe not) put the lighthouse text here. The Fort and State Park are probably not be best here after all. Alternatively, perhaps "Cape Henry" should be more of a disambigution page, linking to the other articles. Anyway, as you are more familiar with these, I won't do anything myself. — Eoghanacht ^talk 12:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

My thinking is that the various articles are each of very different types. Cape Henry itself is essentially a geography feature, Cape Henry Lighthouse = history and lighthouses, Fort Story = army base, etc. I restored the original Cape Henry article, and there are internal links to all the others, which are mentioned. The individual articles should contain more detailed information of each specific nature. My thinking is that readers researching may come across their article of choice by topic, an aspect that can be lost by too much merging. (ie, if i do a Google search for lighthouses, would articles named "Cape Henry Memorial" or worse yet, "Colonial National Historical Park" logically lead me to the oldest lighthouse? likewise, I sure wouldn't want someone looking for Fort Story information to have to find "Colonial National Historical Park".

IMHO, I think there is room in Wikipedia for each of these articles. However, I am part of the collaborative effort her, so we should entertain and consider arguments to the contrary. Respectfully (and thanks for your efforts), Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia. Vaoverland 00:58, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Query re "Memorial" at Cape Henry

"Cape Henry Cross" was dedicated by the National Society Daughters of the American Colonists on April 26, 1935, proclaimed "Cape Henry Day' by the Mayor. As the dedication plaque clearly states, the cross was dedicated to commemorate the first landing of English settlers on the anniversary date of the landing, not to memorialize anything, including the planting of the first cross on April 29, 1607.

A request has -as of today- been made of the NPS and its historian Dr. Robert Selig to justify its use of the term "Memorial" for any reason other than because the cross was relocated into its Memorial Park in 1981. As both the Colonial National Park Superintendent and the cited historian are friends of mine, I expect a speedy reply. (I'll hope the name will change with a reversion to its original name and, along with it, all errors which are a result of it.

Also, those of you who live near me (I am 5 mins from Cape Henry), email me. I'm the Treasurer/Recording Secy of the Order of Cape Henry 1607... ooh la la la yawn la. Let's figure out the best place for these articles (as long as it has no reference to "Memorial.") Matt Hogident (talk) 03:20, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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