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This page could maybe incorporate cross slope RideQ 00:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

merge

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Suggest merging with banked turn to create "Banking/Cant (engineering)"FengRail (talk) 21:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No support. See below. EdJogg (talk) 00:11, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"unbalanced superelevation"?

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Please explain. --Rainald62 (talk) 13:00, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can't help you myself, but have taken liberty of clarifying query as: 'what is "unbalanced superelevation"?', rather than just asking about 'unbalanced'. -- EdJogg (talk) 15:33, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For any given radius and bank, there is a certain speed where the bank provides enough turning force to turn the vehicle. at this speed, gravity tries to pull you down the bank at a rate counterbalanced by the car's inertial tendency to go straight, NASCAR and other oval track race drivers call this the "hands off speed." If you drive a car faster or slower than this speed, you need to steer to stay on the road. Trains can't steer. If the forces due to the superelevation is not balanced, it causes excess wear on the wheel flanges and rails.--Triskele Jim (talk) 22:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Merge

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The scope of the current article on cant is based on ground-based transportation engineering principles. The banked turn article concentrates on physics and aviation (or air-based transportation) principles. The two are incompatible, and a merger would produce an article on two entirely different subjects.

Slopes09 (talk) 20:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The merge banner was applied in April 2009, and the proposal has received no support since then. Also, the editor concerned 'retired' a few days later and has not been active on WP since. Besides, both articles are quite large enough to stand alone, and, as you mention, cover different things. Consequently: merge banner has been removed. -- EdJogg (talk) 00:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

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It has now been proposed that Cant deficiency be merged into this article. See discussion here. -- EdJogg (talk) 12:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There currently exists four separate articles that cover this topic: Banked turn, Cant (road/rail), Cant deficiency, and Cross slope. Even Camber angle chimes in. The fact that banked turn discusses both ground-based and aerial maneuvers only suggests that that article should be split. A similar argument can be made about Cant (road/rail). The fact that the editor who proposed the merge has not been active should have nothing to do with it. I suggest we either put everything in one article with separate sections for rail, road, and aerial, or separate the topic into three articles along those same lines. -AndrewDressel (talk) 14:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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