Talk:Cannabis withdrawal

This article was nominated for deletion on 18 January 2013 (UTC). The result of the discussion was merge to Effects of cannabis.

Article in dire need of improvement

Poorly sourced and subjective article. I am simply not well versed enough in pharmacology to improve this abortion of an article, but this reads like nothing more than propaganda. It needs to be made more clear that cannabis withdrawal is not dangerous nor even perceptibly unpleasant.71.10.74.4 (talk) 04:27, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but in my personal experience, I went from smoking 1-2 times daily, quit cold turkey, and for maybe a week my only withdrawal symptom was wanting to smoke cannabis. After that week, I didn't get that, or any other symptoims. Clearly biased article. 24.150.63.77 (talk) 01:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cannabinoids absolutely do not increase production of dopamine (and neither do most other recrational drugs). In fact long term use of most recreational drugs will DECREASE endogenous dopamine production.

This is an extremely poor way of describing cannabinoids' effect on dopamine. PLEASE, somebody that's qualified fix this article...or just delete it.71.10.74.4 (talk) 02:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC) 71.10.74.4 (talk) 02:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC) 71.10.74.4 (talk) 02:21, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the previous editor to the talk page, just finally got around to getting a wiki account.... Anyway, there is a lot of misinformation, exaggeration, and conjecture in this article with dubious sources to back it up.

I'm almost inclined to delete this whole page... I'm obv new here though, so I'd appreciate some guidance. This kind of propaganda has no place on wikipedia imho.Brooks bonkoksi (talk) 14:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i completely disagree, i think theres some good stuff here. the main problem is the info is mostly from one source (budney et all), which doesnt look good. marijuana withdrawal DOES exist, sure its probably not as bad as tobacco withdrawal but its still unpleasant. some of it is badly worded. also i dont think you are supposed to put the actual source in the article (budney et all).

need more sources and info and better wording. comment added by 21:12, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

i changed the part about dopamine from "increased the production of dopamine" to "increased the amount of dopamine in the synapse". also got rid of the footnote, the idea that drugs increase the amount of dopamine in the synapse is well established (right?) -guy from 22 april 2011

I can assure you that Cannabis can have withdrawal symptoms associated with it, I'm going through them myself having been a moderate smoker for about 2 years (around 3 joints every day or every other day depending on what we had going on in our lives), Both me and my housemate decided to go 'Cold Turkey' to prove to a friend that we were not addicted. He is perfectly fine, I am not. I realise that this is not good enough for Wikipedia but in my search to alleviate the symptoms, have found a number of websites, forums etc. where people are corroborating my symptoms (insomnia, nausea, diarrhea, sweating and complete loss of appetite). I am still smoking regular cigarettes so am certain it is not a nicotine withdrawal. http://www.talktofrank.com/drugs.aspx?id=172 - A UK website about drugs and their effects, considered by most to be very even handed. http://www.forummatters.com/forums/showthread.php/269-How-long-do-marijuana-withdrawal-symptoms-last http://www.cannabissmoker.com/withdrawal/withdrawal-symptoms/ Again I realise that these are not credible sources in Wikipedias eyes and I acknowledge that some people don't seem to get these symptoms at all (maybe its all in the mind rather than the drug) but to some extent at least it is real and there must be some credible sources out there to back it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.126.202 (talk) 20:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I checked this article out about 7 months ago and while it seemed like propaganda in an anti-marijuana sense, it now seems like propaganda in a pro-marijuana sense. I believe we need more nuetral authors and editors on this article. As people like me and the poster above me are going through it and are looking for REALISTIC information on the issue rather than an article that wants to play down what a lot of people are going through, not someones agenda on why marijuana is or is not bad. (98.157.150.169 (talk) 08:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]

The key word here is 'heavy', cannabis use. Virtually any kind of activity that one engages in on a daily basis, or frequently enough, or otherwise according to some distinct pattern and for an extended period of time is going to result in your body and [more importantly] your mind highly anticipating the occurrence. This is how people can even become addicted to things which are not drugs: gambling, shopping, sex & masturbation, eating, exercise, video games, etc. by harnessing the brains endogenous feel-good\reward-seeking neurotransmitters. Even very normal or seemingly subtle behaviors\activities that you might do as part of your general daily routine; brushing your teeth, taking a shower, eating at a meal at a certain time every day, taking a walk at a certain time every day, etc. If you did any/all of those things each and every day for years and then suddenly something upsets your dynamic enough you're likely to feel a bit strange... dare I say anxious and\or depressed even, if the routine is altered to such an extent and that upset lasts long enough. And if there is no way around the deviation(s) and they persist your body\mind will ultimately adjust. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.67.69 (talk) 14:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs improvment because the statement "According to Budney et al., the withdrawal syndrome associated with cannabis use is similar to that for tobacco but of lesser magnitude than withdrawal from other drugs like opiates or alcohol." is completely wrongly worded, it gives the impression that cannabis is in the same level that of tobacco/opiates/alcohol (the three of them being able to be lethal, whilst weed isn't considered to be for example) in terms of withdrawal. Tobacco is much more addictive as a drug, it is very easy to get hooked because it is A) Physically very addictive B) Mentally very addictive C) It is smoked mainly D) It contains nonetheless a toxic product whereas weed is balanced naturally. The psycosomatic effect of tobacco smoking makes tobacco much more addictive than weed. If tobacco is mixed with weed in the form of spliffs, for example, it makes the user associate "weed" with "spliffs" (mixture of drugs), and can "make" weed addictive, while weed in smoked form can generate a withdrawal symptom in the short term but it is absolutely nothing compared to tobacco, or specially opiates, which have a terrifying degree of addictive potential. What Mr. Budney is probably saying is that weed can be addictive in the short term, just like tobacco, the difference being in that weed is not really physically addictive, so the symptoms do not usually last. As for alcohol and opiates, that sentence is mixing arguments. In reality, the way he said it is very misleading. --Vitilsky (talk) 00:16, 30 December 2011 (UTC) >[reply]