Talk:Cannabis Law Reform

Creation

Page created from dead link on LCA wiki page. I'm not very good at starting articles from scratch. Much more work needed, including a logo and general refinement! Possibly in need of a name change to 'CLEAR UK (Political Party)'? Dvmedis (talk) 14:56, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Seems to just be a rename of Legalise Cannabis Alliance, unsupported by reliable sources. Merge into that article until independent notability is established? Fences&Windows 19:54, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

The Legalise Cannabis Alliance no longer exists, is is now Cannabis Law Reform. UKCIA is not unreliable source, but the article needs expanding. Would be strange to merge into the Legalise Cannabis Alliance since that no longer exists, or at least the LCA is now called Cannabis Law Reform. Christopherbrian (talk) 18:04, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Appears to me that Legalise Cannabis Alliance should be merged into Cannabis Law Reform (not vice versa)
Laurel Bush (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I have reproduced much of the content of Legalise Cannabis Alliance in Cannabis Law Reform and made the LCA article a redirect to the new article, but there may still be material in the history of the old article which should be reproduced in the new article
Laurel Bush (talk) 09:29, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

The Lca should not be linked to clear, it was not agreed by all members this was a takeover that left the founding members of the LCA slandered by Mr reynolds, to take away the LCA's page is wrong, the LCA has been deleted by peter reynolds to better his career prospects, the man is a fraud. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.133.54 (talk) 23:35, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

CLEAR and the LCA are the same legal entity. The name was changed by referendum of the members on 16th March 2011 PeterReynolds-UK (talk) 10:23, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

that is a primary source, ie from CLEAR itself but what we require is secondary sources, eg the Huffington Post re[porting on the issue, see Wikipedia:Identifying and using primary and secondary sources. We are attempting to remove all primary sources from the cannabis related articles except where absolutely necessary♫ SqueakBox talk contribs 20:57, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Please see Peter reynolds watch website the Legalise Cannabis Alliance was hijacked by Peter reynolds, to gain self credibility, the clear party is not registered as a political party and Peter Reynolds has since tried to gain directorship in the same manner at the Cannabis Trade Association. He systematically tote the Legalise cannabis alliance apart by inviting new members to vote in his favour he then attempted to sue prominent campaigners and reported medical users to the police . The Legalise Cannabis Alliance UK aims to re register and therefore would request you change the group total to Legalise Cannabis Alliance UK. Thank you Peterrnolds (talk) 22:49, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Legalise cannabis party?

Legalise cannabis party looks to me like a crude over-simplistic way of categorising CLEAR
It s a drug law reform party with a particular focus on cannabis, and appears to have a policies to establish licensed, regulated cannabis supply systems, rather the simple, outright legalisation
Laurel Bush (talk) 10:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

References

The name as that of a registerd party and some other details can be found using the Electoral Commission website, but there seems to be no way of creating a direct link to these details
Laurel Bush (talk) 14:24, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

centre-left/Liberalism?

Not sure why the party is characterized this way in the infobox, it appears to be a purely single issue party aiming at cannabis legalization and perhaps drug law reform more generally. I don't see anything on its website or elsewhere that suggests it should be characterized as either "Liberal" or "centre-left" in a general sense - am I missing something?--90.199.141.148 (talk) 07:22, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

No longer a political party.

CLEAR was statutorily de-registered by the Electoral Commission on the 5th November, 2013. I noticed that CLEAR had already been removed from the wikipedia list of UK parties, therefore I edited the CLEAR page to indicate that it had transferred back into a lobbying group. (CLEAR still pretends to be a political party on their facebook page and site for some reason). CarlaMargam (talk) 21:16, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Reverting title of page to Legalise cannabis alliance

Please revert this page to legalise cannabis alliance For more information please see the website Peter reynolds watch. The legalise cannabis alliance was hijacked by Peter reynolds to build his own personal reputation in the cannabis community. More recently he has tried to get onto the directors board at the Cannabis Trade Association using the same tactics. Clear (cannabis law reform) was created by Peter, he invited friends to join the legalise cannabis alliance and called a member election guaranteeing he would win he then discredited all members of the Legalise Cannabis Alliance , closing their forums and contact with other paying members and tried to sue some, he owes over 35000 in legal fees to one campaigner alone. He reported medical cannabis users to the police. After unsuccessfully finding no candidates to stand for his new party he reverted to a campaign group, his website isn't transparent but he has no other members in the "group" essentially Clear is Peter Reynolds, now claiming to be a cannabis expert and using Cannabis Law Reform to give himself credibility. The members of LCA would like to reform as a political party as was intended in 2011, due to the long standing dispute with Peter reynolds this has taken some years to reform. Currently the lca works as a private group on Facebook, the group was established when Facebook became popular in the UK and has 9400 members, (not all active). We therefore request that the title of this page is returned to its original name The Legalise Cannabis Alliance , we would appreciate any assistance in this changing as soon as possible Thank you Clara O'Donnell Former publications officer of Legalise cannabis alliance

The Legalise Cannabis Alliance was founded by Alun Buffry in 1997. Peterrnolds (talk) 23:25, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Legalise Cannabis Campaign

I can remember this being active in the 70s and 80s. Why is there no mention of it or no separate entry for it? The way this article is written you'd think that the LCA sprang into being without any antecedents, let alone CLEAR. Jatrius (talk) 23:38, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Jatrius it may just be that many of the editors that have contributed to the page don't know about it, and/or that sources are harder for people to access being pre-common internet in the 70s and 80s, or a number of other possibilities. Feel free to be bold and add to the page or create a separate entity for it if you think you can find enough reliable sources to use as citations for such a thing. Helper201 (talk) 06:09, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. All I have for sources are old flyers and memorabilia of the time (benefit gigs etc). I'm unsure these, of themselves would clear the hurdles of being "reliable" under current criteria. Jatrius (talk) 11:12, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Jatrius no problem. Yeah, I don't think flyers and/or memorabilia would be classed as reliable sources. Photos of them for inclusion in the article could be good idea though, while specifically stating in their photo captions they are from when it was the Legalise Cannabis Campaign and dating them if you can. Helper201 (talk) 15:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)