Talk:Canadian Open (curling)
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Renaming
[edit]Is it not original research to start calling this just "Open". That seems to be a ridiculous name for this event that I think no one will use. I suggest we either rename it to the Meridian Open (which I am sure most sources will use) or keep it at Canadian Open, as I imagine the event will revert to that name in the future (although, we can't assume that). -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I don't think we can assume it'll be renamed back to Canadian Open, so the two name options are Open and Meridian Open. Given that the renaming took place just today, we can't establish what the common name will be, but I think looking at how the Canadian Open and other GSOC events are treated demonstrates that the event name, without sponsor, is the common name. This also conforms with Wikipedia:CRITERIA. With the exception of the GSOC itself and Sportnset (its owner) which use both, the name without the sponsor is almost always used as the common name in all other media. Other events with ambiguous single-word names such as the National and Masters have that used as the common name, not the sponsored name. (See Masters and National.) Additionally, the Canadian Open has, prior to the renaming, had Canadian Open as its common name, not Meridian Canadian Open. (See Canadian Open.) Therefore, I think using the name "Open" makes the most sense. It is consistent with the common names and titles of other Grand Slam of Curling events, and I don't think this would be an exception to the consistent principle since the Masters and National also exist and are referred to as such. UmpireRay (talk) 00:41, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- There's something a bit more awkward about just calling the event "Open", though, so I suspect the media will not just call it that, but we'll see. Anyway, I know there is some precedence in other sports for using the original name of events, e.g. the Rogers Cup article is at Canadian Open (tennis) rather than "Rogers Cup".-- Earl Andrew - talk 03:49, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- I agree that it's a bit more awkward, but I still see no reason to believe that it will be treated differently from the other events. A headline along the lines of "Einarson wins third Grand Slam curling title at the Open" or "Team Epping wins curling Open in Vegas" is what I'd guess the media will do, consistent with how they treat the other slams, especially since title sponsors change quite often. With the Rogers Cup, it seems that Canadian Open is the official name and Rogers Cup the sponsored name according to the article (not 100% sure though, it's not very clear), whereas here Canadian Open is no longer an official name for the slam, it is only "Open" or "Meridian Open". In any event, I think since we don't know what the common name is, it's best to err on the side of consistency with all the other Grand Slam articles unless and until it becomes clear that the common name is different.UmpireRay (talk) 09:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I'll keep any eye on what the media is calling it when the time comes and bring them up when the time comes.-- Earl Andrew - talk 18:51, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- I agree that it's a bit more awkward, but I still see no reason to believe that it will be treated differently from the other events. A headline along the lines of "Einarson wins third Grand Slam curling title at the Open" or "Team Epping wins curling Open in Vegas" is what I'd guess the media will do, consistent with how they treat the other slams, especially since title sponsors change quite often. With the Rogers Cup, it seems that Canadian Open is the official name and Rogers Cup the sponsored name according to the article (not 100% sure though, it's not very clear), whereas here Canadian Open is no longer an official name for the slam, it is only "Open" or "Meridian Open". In any event, I think since we don't know what the common name is, it's best to err on the side of consistency with all the other Grand Slam articles unless and until it becomes clear that the common name is different.UmpireRay (talk) 09:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- There's something a bit more awkward about just calling the event "Open", though, so I suspect the media will not just call it that, but we'll see. Anyway, I know there is some precedence in other sports for using the original name of events, e.g. the Rogers Cup article is at Canadian Open (tennis) rather than "Rogers Cup".-- Earl Andrew - talk 03:49, 21 February 2020 (UTC)