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To be translated:[http://ccphistory.blogspot.com/2006/12/blog-post_12.html

「鎮反」與「肅反」是不同的] 肅反」發生的時間是從一九五五年七月至一九五七年底。前此發生了兩件事，一是一九五五年四月全國黨代會期間發生的「潘楊事件」，上海市副市長潘漢年被誣為「內奸」，不久又發生了著名的「胡風事件」。由於「潘楊事件」和「胡風事件」，中共認為「自己人」內部也有問題，乃於是年七月一日，發出《關於開展鬥爭肅清暗藏的反革命分子的指示》，全國各地先後開展肅反運動，同年八月廿五日，中共中央又發出《關於徹底肅清暗藏反革命分子的指示》，要求在全國範圍內，按照中央「七一」指示規定，進一步開展肅清一切暗藏反革命分子的運動。肅反對象是「黨和國家機關、軍隊內部」的幹部。　　簡單講，「鎮反」打擊對象是對中共政權有威脅的黨外組織和個人；「肅反」則針對中共政權內部「暗藏的敵人」。兩者不僅發生的背景有別，時間不同，對象也不同。

Is that blog above reliable? Homunculus (duihua) 15:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article structure

I have some thoughts about the structure. I would have thought a more general overview/introduction would be more appropriate before delineating the roles of the main parties. Is that so? Also, I don't like all the italics for quotes. Makes reading a bit confusing. Homunculus (duihua) 15:31, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

About the CCP propaganda, the only question I have is: is the information there confirmed by other sources? We should not quote what the CCP says as facts unless there is some corroborating source. I would understand the wish to delete the material if CCP documentation is the only thing available on this. Homunculus (duihua) 03:01, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Homunculus, whenever possible, sources like Xinhua, People's Daily are to be avoided, as they have been proved to be telling lies and lies and lies. CCTV also need to be avoided.

I suggest you to go and remove this "Background" section.

Arilang ^talk 07:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to who? Where does WP:RS state that Chinese state media sources can't be used? I don't see a problem as long as they're properly attributed.--PCPP (talk) 11:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- User PCPP, try go to articles such as Korean War or Second Sino-Japanese War, and add content presented by CCTV or Xinhua, and see how long your content will last. Arilang ^talk 13:46, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that content from Chinese state media is not used as fact, but as the opinion of the Chinese Communist Party on some matter only. Big difference. I am thinking of making an article on the Cult of Mao, in case either of you are interested in that topic. Homunculus (duihua) 06:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed sources

I've removed several these sources as they fail WP:RS, are improperly formatted, and largely consists of foreign language blogs and forums with little verification on scholarship.--PCPP (talk) 11:56, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Infobox POV issues

It looks like in May, IP 142.112.236.29 decided to change everything in the infobox to the ROC — instead of “Republic of China remnants,” for instance, they wrote “Central Government remnants;” instead of “People’s Republic of China” they put Kuomintang China with the Nationalist Chinese flag and listed it as “occupied.”

I personally prefer the Nationalist government over the Communist one for a variety of reasons (one of which is this counterrevolutionary suppression campaign), but I also feel that listing China as occupied in the infobox and calling the Kuomintang government (which by then had been based in Taiwan for around a year) the “Central Government” just comes off as POV and not objective. However, this edit’s been here for a while and no one’s changed it, so I don’t know if there’s already a consensus on this matter — if there isn’t, may I revert it? Marcustcii (talk) 04:20, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Marcustcii: I have reverted related edits. Seems to be KMT/Republican era POV pusher. ときさきくるみ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 22:56, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]