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Contradiction?

The Cama apparently inherited the poor temperament of both parents as well as demonstrating the relatedness of the New World and Old World Camelids.

The breeders also noted that Camas showed to be more mild in behavior than their Camel relatives.

Which is it? Is the Cama as nasty as its parents or could this be shortened to

The Cama exhibits the poor temperament of both parents but is better behaved than Camels.

if that is what is meant?

I did not make the change because I am not certain what is meant. JimCubb 18:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will delete the first sentence because I could find a source for it.

Total nonsense and NPOV

Camas are also really cute because J said so.

I hope nonsense such as this can be prevented again. Deleting it. Oh, and pictures indeed would be good.

foodmaniac2003 18:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could not find any free pictures of camas. Added a link to a fotogallery instead. --Neozoon 01:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comparative table errors.

The statistics in the comparative table for camelid sizes is extremely erroneous. Llamas are the largest new world camelids growing to be 5-6 feet tall, 250-450 lb. Guanacos are quite a bit smaller, 3.5-4 feet and up to 200 lb. Alpaca and vicuna are the smallest (And may be subspecies of the same animal) at only around 3 feet tall and a max of 150 lb. (Source: Wikipedia, Cedar Brook Alpaca farm.)

I don't know their load-bearing capacities, but I can imagine the smaller ones would have a proportionately smaller capacity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GearSmoke (talk • contribs) 19:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC) True. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeddi123 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are also obvious errors with cama's weight, height and load-bearing capacities: conversion to pounds (lb) doesn't work, height doesn't match the weight. The lifespan is purely hypothetical if the oldest cama was born in 1998. 118.173.183.94 (talk) 08:37, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Species name?!

There was an edit from an IP address in 2010, [1], that added a "binomial name" for this species. As far as I can see this animal has not been recognised as a species, and there is no authority cited for this name which is just an arbitary joining of the scientific names of the two parent species. I expect it will never get a binomial name unless these animals successfully breed together and are recognised as a new species. As far as I can see the references on the internet to this name all come from this website (including one entered in EOL which references this website). I propose to remove this made up name unless someone can show a reliable source for it. --Tony Wills (talk) 20:47, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update: The same editor 71.30.162.158 did exactly the same sort of edits on a number of pages all on the same day, and no subsequent edits - looks like someone just having a bit of fun. All but two of these edits were reversed by maintainers of those pages. I will go and clean up the last two. --Tony Wills (talk) 21:02, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Chromosomes

It would be interesting to the reader to see the number of chromosomes for species in the comparison section. On the Camlid Species' Pages i only found the following statement:

Genetics and hybrids

The dromedary has 74 diploid chromosomes, the same as other camelids. The autosomes consist of five pairs of small to medium-sized metacentrics and submetacentrics.^[1] The X chromosome is the largest in the metacentric and submetacentric group.^[2] There are 31 pairs of acrocentrics.^[1] The dromedary's karyotype is similar to that of the Bactrian camel.^[3]

If this is true for all camelids it would ease hybridisation and should be stated on the Species Comparison as a common aspect.

Can anyone woth more Camlid background verify and add this here ?

Maybe in the long run a separate page Camelid hybrid could be added containing all these scattered hybridisation information (analogous to Felid hybrid and Canid hybrid)--RScheiber (talk) 08:53, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Benirschke, K.; Hsu, T.C. (1974). An Atlas of Mammalian Chromosomes. Vol. 8. New York, USA: Springer. pp. 153–6. ISBN 978-1-4615-6432-4.
^ Cite error: The named reference mammal was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Taylor, K.M.; Hungerford, D.A.; Snyder, R.L.; Ulmer, F.A.Jr. (1968). "Uniformity of karyotypes in the Camelidae". Cytogenetic and Genome Research. 7 (1): 8–15. doi:10.1159/000129967. PMID 5659175.

[benirschke-1] Benirschke, K.; Hsu, T.C. (1974). An Atlas of Mammalian Chromosomes. Vol. 8. New York, USA: Springer. pp. 153–6. ISBN 978-1-4615-6432-4.

[mammal-2] Cite error: The named reference mammal was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[taylor1968-3] Taylor, K.M.; Hungerford, D.A.; Snyder, R.L.; Ulmer, F.A.Jr. (1968). "Uniformity of karyotypes in the Camelidae". Cytogenetic and Genome Research. 7 (1): 8–15. doi:10.1159/000129967. PMID 5659175.

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