Talk:Calypso (mythology)

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The "Calypso" in Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End is NOT the Calypso of Greek mythology, therefore I reverted. As far as I know, the only similaritblablabla real Vega|Ethereal Vega]] (talk) 01:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I removed an insert that someone placed in here saying "Don't come her cause peeps can change stuff", didn't think that had much to do with Calypso. U got corn in dem earz?

What kind of Goddess is Calipso can you inform me??

shes not a goddess but she is a naiad or creature of the sea i hate how people think she trapped odysseus when really all she needed was a freind haha still i believe thats Bs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.75.72.226 (talk) 20:27, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

kay, so i'm doing a project for my language arts class and i need to know, like, what's her element or her symbol? and also, what's her roman name??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.2.144 (talk) 23:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC) Suzanne Vega also wrote a song "Calypso" which is actually about her story.

Calypso is a Goddess am not sure what type but she knows magic 41.202.240.9 (talk) 07:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Um, you're right, they're not the same person, but the Calypso in Pirates of the Carribean IS based on the one from Greek Mythology, so the movie and its character do warrant a mention in this article. Otherwise we need to make a "Calypso in popular culture" article. Like I am implying, the Calypso in Pirates of the Carribean is only loosely based on the Calypso of the mythology, but she is based/inspired by her, or a reference. And she is also the daughter of Atlas in the movie. --2.104.12.76 (talk) 20:13, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, the above comment was made by me, but I forgot to login. --Luka1184 (talk) 20:14, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

A true gods name is said to contain the essence of his being as such one would have to look at the meaning behind her name and what this meaning represents. The etymology of Calypso's name gives us thus a good insight. The act of veiling, concealing has a need for a seal or veil to separate one from one therefore creating 2. This seemingly points at Calypso holding the essence of creation. Going by numerology Hel or the Netherworld, in which her island may be located in, represents nothingness as in the number 0, this paradox as her realm exists inside nothingness as a tangible world. 1 represents unity, eternity or existence itself out of which 2 selfawareness, distinction, information or symbol is born.) Through the self(co)created aspect 2, which symbolizes both production and separation (holding the same meaning as seal which can both bring forth prosperity as well as restriction), a kind of pseudo unity is born, which is love (coexistence) as 3. Although I may not remember everything correctly... Based on the Story of Odysseus Calypso holds a variety of functions; She gives pure love and no deception (even if others likely wrongfully think that she is a 'deceiver and seductress'), which is like medicine for Odysseus hardened spirit; He is given every material thing he wants and he has no work to distract himself from his own true nature. She is a guardian, similar to a mother, protecting him from certain death until Odysseus opens himself and is able to gain the attention from the major gods. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.123.22.238 (talk) 12:51, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

There is a possibility that the name Calypso or Kalypsō translates as "Black Dark". Black from a similar origin as 'Kali' and Dark from the 'psō' resembling the sound a flame makes when going dark/out (source unknown) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.23.255.41 (talk) 18:09, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Nereid/Naiad

I thought uylsses was the main fighter

Children with Odysseus?

Hesiod mentions that Odysseus and Calypso had two children together at the end of the Theogony. Do any other sources support this? It says that Odysseus sneaked up on her and rape her, with a hand in her vangina and kissing her breasts. Slingstone (talk) 06:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Nausinous and Nausithous are rather obscure mythological figures. They are other not mentioned at all in other sources or mentioned by those quotting Hesiod. Apollodorus instead mentions Agrius and Latinus as the son of Odysseus and Calypso (for the latter see:Apollodorus, Epit. VII. 24). Eustathius of Thessalonica names Telegonus as the son of Odysseus and Calypso. Note that all three additional sons are elsewhere described as sons of Odysseus and Circe. Suggesting some confusion or identification of the two goddesses. Dimadick (talk) 01:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

LUCIAN'S TRUE HISTORY

Added reference to Lucian's True History, as Calypso's island makes an appearance toward the end. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.62.240.2 (talk) 00:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Is the text "She was the daughter of the Titan, Atlas, and is also known as Atlantis " to be parsed as "She was the daughter of the Titan, and is called Atlas, and is also known as Atlantis" or as "She was the daughter of the Titan who is Atlas, and she is also known as Atlantis" or as something else?

it's "She was the daughter of the Titan who is Atlas also known as Atlantis" as in Atlas is also known as Atlantis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.2.144 (talk) 23:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Calypso = Malta!

Calypso(Kalypsō) < from the Greek verb kalyptein = to hide http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Calypso&searchmode=none sea nymph in the "Odyssey," lit. "hidden, hider" (perhaps originally a death goddess) from Gk. kalyptein "to cover, conceal," from PIE *kel- "to cover, conceal, save," root of English Hell (see cell). / Malta < the Phoenician word Maleth, the Phoenician name for the islands, meaning "a haven" in reference to Malta's many bays and coves. Böri (talk) 09:02, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

But 'hidden' doesn't mean a place of shelter, etc. Dougweller (talk) 12:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Removed section: "Hearsay"

The following was added here, by 92.2.189.111 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), under the section title "Hearsay":

Ancient mariners that hunted whales would call the high pitched sound produced by whales, when struck by harpoons "Calypso's Scream".

Superstitious rituals would be performed by sailors of all whaling nations out of respect and probably fear. Whilst not relevant today it is interesting that those traditions were followed into the 20th century. and even the sounds of a sinking ship were given the same title.

All very interesting, but since no source is given (the edit summar was: "Hearsay. I am going by what my grandfather said from his WW2 service in the merchant marine. He used to tell the story as a ghost story to scare us before he died in 1984, it was just another old story he said his grandfather would tell him"), I removed the section.

However, this might warrant a mention in the article, provided a reliable source could be found.

Paul August ☎ 10:50, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Tendentious readings

Where on earth does anyone get the notion that Odysseus longs to leave Calypso because he misses his wife, Penelope? Only a person who is watching cartoons or television rather than reading the epic could come to such a conclusion. The manipulation of narrative time by Home is extremely sophisticated. By the time we meet Odysseus in Odyssey, in Book V, he is, if his flashback narrative with the Phaeaecians is true, already post-Cicones, Lotus eaters, Polyphemus, Antiphates, Aeolus, and Circe. Circe has sent him to Hades, where he has met the shade of Agamemnon, whose first words are to beware Penelope and to test her for faithlessness. He has returned to Circe, gone on through the Sirens, Scylla and Charybdis, messed with Helios's cattle, and ended up with every single crewman dead. THIS is where he is when he gets to Calypso, and we're to believe that he is filled with a uxorious spirit that he has never shown any evidence of?

When, indeed, he is with Circe, he is in her bed (against her will) for a year, and he has "forgotten his home." His men have to remind him of "home." Upon arriving on Calypso's island, he enjoys her company for years.

When Athena speaks to Zeus in Book I, she says that Odysseus must be set free to get to his hall to show the value of descent from the gods. It's ALL about being a king, and a king is in his kingdom. It is worth more than immortality and eternal youth. In fact, the integrity of kingship means more than the queen (hence, when he arrives in Ithaca, Athena, in disguise, twice advises Odysseus to test the women, and Penelope). [Her motivation is not due to doubts about Penelope but her own desire to see the "Slaughter in the Halls" accomplished. She needs Odysseus to put off the reunion and return until there is a reclamation of his crown through massive and improbable bloodshed that will give HER more glory as his patroness.]

Yes, Homer says that Odysseus has sex with her unwillingly, but it is not exactly a sexual captivity as much as a pleasurelessness due to his wanting to be in his homeland. Hithladaeus (talk) 19:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

If Homer says that Odysseus has sex with her unwillingly, then yes it is sexual captivity; I see no difference. If he cannot leave the island and he cannot deny her, it is rape. Deiadameian (talk) 08:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Roman

Does she have a Roman form/name?

174.238.165.177 (talk) 22:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)