Talk:Call It Stormy Monday (But Tuesday Is Just as Bad)/Archive 1

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I am going to also put it in the Blues-rock songs and 1971 songs categories, since the song was made famous by the ABB and their arrangement would be considered more blues-rock than blues. If you have any objections, please voice them here rather than just reverting. Thanks! -- Cielomobile ^{minor 7} 17:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Am okay on the blues-rock category, but not on 1971 songs. The song year category is just for the original version, not for later versions. You may think that the song was made famous by the ABB, but actually it was well-known before that. Wasted Time R 17:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Infobox

Following the guidelines from Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs, there should be an infobox. I am going to start one, but I don't know much about the history of the song and such, so maybe someone else could help. -- Cielomobile ^{minor 7} 17:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Singles often have infoboxes, but songs that are famous for reasons other than being singles, and that are famous for renditions by multiple artists (as this one is) usually don't. I don't see a particular need for one here. Wasted Time R 17:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

They provide quick information for anyone interested in the song, without having sift through the meat of an article. The WikiProject Songs doesn't indicate that songs performed by various artists shouldn't have infoboxes. -- Cielomobile ^minor7♭5 18:22, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

The only non-single song infoboxes I've seen are aimed at songs on a particular album, such as in the Jungleland or Stairway to Heaven articles. I haven't seen any that are for "standards" and that allow you to list all the major renditions of the song. But I may have missed it ... Wasted Time R 18:43, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, this song is not a standard, but it has three infoboxes. Perhaps two infoboxes for "Stormy Monday," one for T-Bone Walker's version and one for the ABB version, would be good? -- Cielomobile ^minor7♭5 20:17, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, that song I linked is a Good Article, so taking ideas from it wouldn't be a bad idea. -- Cielomobile ^minor7♭5 20:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

That's a song that has been recorded as a single multiple times; there are a number of examples of multiple infoboxes for that situation. But standards in any genre never seem to have infoboxes ... see Over the Rainbow, Fly Me to the Moon, My Funny Valentine, Take the A Train, Statesboro Blues, etc. ... I think this is something the Wiki songs project needs to look at making. Wasted Time R 20:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe there should be a "standards" infobox then, that would be a good idea. I'll work on it, but for now, I put up two infoboxes. The T-Bone one is incomplete, as it was very hard to find any information (even what album it was from) on the internet. -- Cielomobile ^minor7♭5 21:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

This song was also recorded by Eric Clapton with John Mayall and the blues breakers and recently with Cream. Also Buddy Guy performed this song on the late 60's —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.118.96.216 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, seeing as the song has been recorded by so many different artists over the years, we can't include them all in the infobox. -- Cielomobile ^{talk / contribs} 02:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

This articles does not cite it's sources

I hope someone is working on that side of things. It looks like a great article but its not verifiable. Mattisse(talk) 04:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The intro is not notated correctly

The song is clearly in a 6/8 meter, not 4/4 like the author of the picture suggests. He even tries to use triplets and sextuplets to approximate the rhythm that is played, but it would be much simpler to just write it in 6/8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.136.22.4 (talk)

It has the feel of both 6/8 and 4/4, but I chose to write it in 4/4, because the drums also give it a 4/4 feel. If you'd like to rewrite it in 4/4, be my guest. -- Cielomobile ^{talk / contribs} 00:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you folks want to be REALLY accurate, don't talk about 6/8 but 12/8. That's why it's got a 4-beat feel. A 6/8 song that's interpretable as a triplet beat (rahter than 6 actual beats per bar) would be confused with 2/4, not 4/4. Unless you think the intro should be written as 4 bars of 6/8, yielding a 24 bar blues. 198.49.180.40 22:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Allman Brothers info box?

I know that the Allman Brothers famously had this on their Fillmore live album, but why should they get a box here? They didn't write the song, they weren't the first or the last to cover it. This song was notable before they got their hands on it and the importance of the original shouldn't be weighted towards their performance. The box is for personnel, discography and history of the Allman Brother Band. Asides from not being very fair to T-Bone Walker it's misleading to weight it this much towards them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.16.212.155 (talk) 22:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Meaning of the song?

I remember reading somewhere in the past that the meaning of the song refers to day the day that welfare checks are collected by those on welfare. The part of the song, "Oh the eagles fly on Friday..." is supposedly what refers to the collection day. Does anyone have any references to prove this or know for a fact that this it the case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.67.116.77 (talk) 02:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The Chord Chart Needs to be Formatted More Clearly

The chord chart does not follow the standard of any type of chord chart notation which I have seen.  Moreover, the use of the "/" is misleading.  The slash in  chord notation is often used indicate a bass note other than the root.--Baumgaertner (talk) 03:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Structure section - include Walker and Bland versions

The "short-hand" chord chart is applicable to the Allman Brothers' version. Their arrangement was adapted from Bobby Bland's 1962 version of "Stormy Monday" that utilized a similar, common 12-bar substitution (Bland frequently used this, beginning with his first hit in 1957 "Farther Up the Road"). The two T-Bone Walker versions cited (1947 and 1959) follow the typical I-IV-V 12-bar pattern and are in the key of G. Bland's version is in A♭. Ojorojo (talk) 20:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I liked this edit. Much clearer whos version does what. Including the Allman Brothers. Swooch (talk) 11:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Why Is It ... ?

Why is it that there are no lyrics in this article and many of the articles on songs? Wouldn't that be obvious, or am I missing something? What is the reasoning on not having lyrics in an article on a song on Wikipedia? L. Thomas W. (talk) 13:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I guess the main reason is that lyrics don't really belong in a dictionary. Plus copyright issues probably makes it impossible even if we wanted it in. Swooch (talk) 15:53, 3 January 2014 (UTC)