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This article is written in South African English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

SA maps without numbers.

I'll have limited internet access from now on, so may not be able to update the maps. I've uploaded versions of the current maps without numbers or dates. Feel free to update just the colors, or also inlcude the numbers and date again (by downloading and editing a previous version at commons), using an SVG editor like Inkscape. -- Jeandré, 2020-05-26t12:41z

24-48 hours deaths figures, sources other than NICD alert pages?

On the NICD's 2022-03-05 CoViD-19 alert page at https://www.nicd.ac.za/latest-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-in-south-africa-5-march-2022/ they accidentally cut out some text in paragraph 3, including a closing bracket, and ended up listing the retroactive audited number (26) as the past 24-48 hours number instead.

Recently I haven't received any responses or seen corrections made after asking the NICD about errors on their pages. Anyone have another source? -- Jeandré, 2022-03-06t09:07z (edit -- Jeandré, 2022-03-06t09:08z)

NICD announced end of daily COVID number reports

On 29 July 2022 the NICD announced it would stop issuing daily reports https://twitter.com/nicd_sa/status/1553032769302892544

I've been contributing graphs (e.g. rolling average of active COVID cases). The data sources for this were the DSFSI GitHub which rely on these and my automated tools are likely to break. I don't have time at the moment to update the scripts manually to use the weekly numbers.

I uploaded the latest graphs with figures as up to end of July 2022. These may be the last graphs for a long time -- let's hope the fact these numbers become archival makes them relevant for a long time. If we have a big uptick in numbers I'll put the effort in. Shaze (talk) 07:53, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excess deaths still mostly from CoViD-19?

With the reduction in the number of confirmed CoViD-19 deaths since the end of the 4th wave, should the percentages:

"with 85%–95% of these excess deaths attributable to COVID-19, and the remaining 5%–15% probably mainly due to overwhelmed health services."

get an end-date or other clarification?

There were 970 excess deaths of persons older than 1 years from natural causes between 2022-08-14/20. Since other deaths like TB and winter flu spikes, etc. don't show up in excess death numbers because the data is based on numbers from several years before 2020, I think the percentages and total excess deaths still come from CoViD-19, and not something new like monkeypox which has an official death toll in SA of 0. The number of excess deaths are still above the upper prediction bound.

I think the excess deaths total and graph should not be updated once the excess deaths has been below the upper prediction bound from all causes, for more than a few weeks. -- Jeandré, 2022-08-29t07:05z

Birth sex ratio change 2020-06.

@Jeandré du Toit: I've just come across this article COVID-19 onset reduced the sex ratio at birth in South Africa^[1], where do you reckon it fits in? Ear-phone (talk) 11:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

^ Masukume, Gwinyai; Ryan, Margaret; Masukume, Rumbidzai; Zammit, Dorota; Grech, Victor; Mapanga, Witness (2022-08-29). "COVID-19 onset reduced the sex ratio at birth in South Africa". PeerJ. 10: e13985. doi:10.7717/peerj.13985. ISSN 2167-8359.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

Probably a new section: 4.5 "Birth sex ratio change". -- Jeandré, 2022-08-29t16:56z

Ok @Jeandré du Toit:. I wouldn't exactly know how to say it. You're more adept at interpreting statistics than I am. Could you possibly implement this? Ear-phone (talk) 21:19, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Jeandré du Toit:. I have added that section. I hope I have interpreted the findings correctly? Ear-phone (talk) 13:52, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Can we replace "100 months up to December 2020" with "between September 2012 and December 2020"?

Also, do other people see line breaks after the less-than sign and "population"? -- Jeandré, 2022-09-29t12:28z

Hello @Jeandré du Toit:. Thank you. I have made the suggested changes. I hope ok? Ear-phone (talk) 15:43, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Masukume, Gwinyai; Ryan, Margaret; Masukume, Rumbidzai; Zammit, Dorota; Grech, Victor; Mapanga, Witness (2022-08-29). "COVID-19 onset reduced the sex ratio at birth in South Africa". PeerJ. 10: e13985. doi:10.7717/peerj.13985. ISSN 2167-8359.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

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