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On 20 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from CIE 071 Class/NIR Class 110 to CIE 071 Class. The result of the discussion was moved.

Serbian and other similar locomotives

This page [1] claims that the Serbian ZS 666 class are EMD JT30C-2 locomotives rather than JT22CWs. So which page is wrong then? If we're wrong then they probably shouldn't be on this page. Karsini (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neither page is wrong, as far as I can tell. The JT30C-2 is listed as a DSB class MZ Suckindiesel (talk) 20:34, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Similar locomotives were produced for Iraq, Egypt and Sudan. Sudan Railways EMD-JT22LC-2 1950-1959, Egypt Railways JT22MC 3224-3231, EMD order 828023 of 1983, JT22CW: 3445-3459 GMDL order C450 of 1984. EMD 12-645E3 engine, and Iraq Railways JT22CW 2401-2454. Also, RENFE in Spain built similar locomotives under license RENFE Class 319. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aughrim91 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

THis article has to be about the Irisih locomotives only. I don't know why the Servbian locos are even mentioned. It clearly needs to be split.

Northern Ireland

This page states that 8113 has been scrapped. However, reports on the internet imply that it has been simply canibalized for spare parts as opposed to be actually being cut up. For eg;http://irnirishrailwaynews.yuku.com/topic/928/t/NIR-111-112-113-watch.html?page=10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.107.227 (talk) 13:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Need of mentioning Serbian engines?

I don't really think the Serbian engines should be mentioned on this page as they aren't the only JT22 variation produced. If anything, i think that the JT22/ should be given it's own page, with the various models in sections and a link to CIE's 071.

ConnieC420 (talk) 14:25, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 20 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works ping me! 20:34, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CIE 071 Class/NIR Class 110 → CIE 071 Class – Similar to others in Category:Iarnród Éireann locomotives. A the same time NIR Class 110 should be created as a redirect. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 20:00, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Airpopg (talk) 03:47, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Andy Dingley (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Naming

There are two questions to answer:

CIE or CIE / NI ?
NIR 110 or NIR 111 ?

I would support CIE, per the rename request above. There should be redirects from the NIR forms. I wouldn't oppose keeping the old composite name as a historical redir, but uncategorised. This is all mostly for consistency with the other CIE types and that these were sold, rather than the locos kept with a company that renamed (as we have for the British Big Four companies.

Both NIR forms should be created as redirs, as both are in use. The text here should use both, as both are in use. It should not say that either is the 'official' class name, unless we can source that very robustly. I can't. A plethora of fansites (which use both) don't change that. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would now support 111 over 110. This is consistent with how other NIR loco classes are described. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:00, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]