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Class name

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Per WP:RS, if the reliable sources use class names, then so do we. The CCG website is a primary source. Wikipedia does not follow CCG internal policies, but what the reliable sources use. According to Jane's Fighting Ships they are called the Martha L. Black class. Please refrain from making further changes until you have read the relevant policy. Llammakey (talk) 10:45, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In the past, some Wikipedians had the habit of "inventing" ship classes for e.g. Baltic cruiseferries based on the lead ship even though no-one used such names for them anywhere. I'm not saying it's happening in this case, but just be aware of such preceding cases. I don't know how Jane's operate and I'm well aware that it's not our job to start second-guessing well-respected sources, but even there the decision to refer to these ships as Martha L. Black class may have been made by a single editor and it may not reflect general usage. A quick googling didn't turn up many sources that used that as the class name. Personally, I'm more familiar with the type designation (T1100) — it's kind of curious that the class article mentions neither that nor the official CCG designation (High Endurance Multi-Task Vessel). Tupsumato (talk) 18:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Type will include many ships not of the same design. For example CCGS Tracy and CCGS Griffon were the same type, but not of the same design. The CCG Type is indicative of their role, not necessarily their design, while Jane's fighting ships put ships of the same design together. As for the the Type designations beyond former CCG employees, a "High Endurance Multi-Task Vessel" is as informative as white bread. Llammakey (talk) 18:42, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

When I was designing the AC/AC drive systems for all 6 ships of this class in the mid-1980s, these ships were always referred to as "Canadian Coast Guard Type 1100 Navaids Vessels". I never saw the designation "High Endurance Multi-Task Vessel" until I started looking up unformation about them out of curiosity after I retired. [Louis Schwalm] Nov 13, 2018

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