Talk:By the Grace of God

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Merger

Since the only difference in 'definition' is the use of one capital (inconsequent in By the grace of God: Grace in its actual first line), I can't imagine any objection. I've therefore attempted to integrate all data in By the Grace of God. Fastifex 08:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

political power

This phrase "all political power having passed to the people (by referendum or, generally, elections)" in the case of the UK is misleading. It fails to take into account the difference that Walter Bagehot described as the Dignified (that part which is symbolic) and the Efficient (the way things actually work and get done).

If one looks at the British constitution, yes power lies with the people and has since 30 January 1649, but if one looks at the Restoration and the Glorious Revolution, then symbolic power appears still to lie with the monarch. Not only does symbolic power rest with the monarch but the use of this symbolic power crops up as part of the Efficient in all sorts of unexpected ways for example in a radio program put out by the BBC (Whose hand is on the button?) it was explained why the Queen as head of the Armed forces was a useful constitutional check on a Prime Minister who's judgement was in the opinion of the military faulty. An area where the Monarch's theoretical rights have been used to bypass will of the people as exercised referendum or elections, has been the inclusion of European regulations into UK law through the use of the Privy Orders in Council under the Royal Prerogative.

So it is not that the sentence in the article that I quoted is wrong, it is just that it is far to complex an issue to be summed up in on phrase, as it takes no account of the complexities of the UK constitutional arrangements. Its a bit like saying "The Queen owns the Crown Jewels", instead of explaining that there is a corporate identity called The Crown ... . -- PBS (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merger with Dei Gratia Regina

Pretty straightforward. Proposing Dei Gratia Regina be merged into this article as the former is just a variation of the latter (the former is just added Regina/Queen to it). The majority of the content is just on its usage in coinage which could be merged into the contemporary section. Thoughts? Leventio (talk) 09:04, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose on the grounds that Dei Gratia Regina is exclusively about coins, while By the Grace of God is exclusively about the prefix and its use. I've added a hatnote, and hope that this is enough to distinguish between these independently notable topics. Klbrain (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]