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GA Review

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Reviewer: Trainsandotherthings (talk · contribs) 18:40, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Hello, I'll be reviewing this article. From a cursory look, it appears pretty close to meeting the GA requirements. We can have this review done in a day or two, depending on your activity level. Note that I speak American English, so if any comments I make about spelling or grammar are incorrect due to ENGVAR, don't hesitate to point them out to me. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:40, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
    Some issues need to be addressed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
    A few issues need attention. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    No issues here. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
    Sourced mostly to government publications and news organizations, all reliable sources. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    C. It contains no original research:
    Everything is cited that needs to be. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
    One sentence is a close paraphrase and needs to be rewritten. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    Covers all aspects of the subject. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
    No issues with this area. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
    Maintains a neutral and objective tone throughout. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:40, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
    No issues with stability. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    All except one are the nominator's own work, and that image is appropriately tagged. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
    A few captions may need expansion. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    This article is close to GA, but I am placing it on hold pending response to my feedback. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for undertaking this GA review. I believe I have addressed all your concerns. Steelkamp (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Everything looks good now. I'll be promoting this article to GA, congratulations, and keep up the good work! Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by section

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Lead and infobox

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  • "Butler railway station is a railway station" is a bit repetitive, perhaps change the wording to "Butler railway station is located in Butler..." or "Butler railway station is the main railway station in Butler..." or "Butler railway station serves Butler..."
  • Also consider changing the way Butler is described in the first sentence. "a railway station in Butler, a suburb of Perth, Western Australia." is a bit confusing to me. I would rephrase this to "a railway station in Butler, Western Australia, a suburb of Perth."
  • "It opened on 21 September 2014 as an extension of the already existing Joondalup line." Delete "already existing" as redundant and not needed.
  • "The Joondalup line is currently in the process of being extended past Butler station to Yanchep railway station. That extension is planned to open at the end of 2023." Provide a date for this statement, such as "As of November 2021, the Joondalup line..." Also consider removing "in the process of" to shorten this sentence.
  • "The station is served by six regular bus routes." Can you elaborate a bit on the operator(s) of these bus routes (Butler transport is mentioned in the body)? Are any bus services timed to connect with train arrivals and departures?
  • I recommend adding a bit of background about the station, from the planning and construction section, into the lead. For instance, you could mention the start date of construction, or discuss the planning of the station.
  • In the infobox, change parking from "891" to "891 spaces" for clarity.
  • Are more recent passenger statistics than 2013-2014 available? If so, I recommend updating the statistics.
    • No, there aren't any more recent passenger counts, frustratingly. The Public Transport Authority/Transperth does not regularly release passenger statistics for individual stations. Steelkamp (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Similarly to my comment about bus routes in the lead, if there is information available on the bus routes, that can be added to the infobox as well.

Description

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Planning and construction

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  • I suggest starting off with a brief sentence or two covering the history of the Joondalup railway line.
  • "During planning for the Joondalup line extension from Currambine station to Clarkson station in the late 1990s and early 2000s, it was recognised that the Joondalup line would be eventually extended north of Clarkson, with two potential stations: a park-and-ride station at Lukin Drive, called Butler station; and a station north of that, surrounded by a transit oriented development, called Brighton station." This sentence is quite long, I recommend splitting it into two sentences. I'd make a cut after Clarkson, with the following sentence starting as "Two potential stations were identified:".
  • "The name "Brighton" was a commonly used" I believe the tense here should be changed, to "is" instead of "was".
  • "$2.1 million was allocated in the 2007 state budget for planning for the extension to Butler." Delete the second use of "for".
  • "...promised to extend the Joondalup line to the suburb of Butler." No need to include "the suburb of" here, it has already been identified as a Perth suburb previously.
  • "The railway extension had a predicted cost of $240 million, a length of 7.5 kilometres (4.7 mi), and one station, at the end of the extension, known then as Brighton station." Delete the comma after "station".
  • "O'Brien defended the choice of building only one station, saying that the Public Transport Authority told him it was a better idea to build one station." This sentence says "build one station" twice. One of the mentions should either be reworded or deleted.
  • "The plan called for Brighton station to be a park and ride station, as the previously planned park and ride station was not going to be built." Similar to immediately above, the double mention of "park and ride station" should be addressed, either by rewording or deleting one of the two mentions.
  • "The second major contract for the project was awarded on 20 May 2011[22] to a joint venture between Bocol Constructions and R J Vincent & Co." This sentence needs to be rewritten, it is too similar to the wording of the source [1].
  • "The contract was worth $9.8 million, and was for the construction of three bridges across the railway corridor and associated roadworks." I suggest this be changed to "The $9.8 million contract was for..."
  • "Bocal constructed the bridges and concrete walls; R J Vincent did the road construction, earthworks, traffic management, and everything else." The use of "everything else" comes across to me as not encyclopedic language, can this be rephrased?
  • "A $22 million contract for the construction of Butler station was awarded to Cooper and Oxley in July 2012. Construction on the station began on 16 July 2012." These sentences can be combined.
  • "That month, construction on the railway tracks and overhead power lines began. The $24 million contract for that was awarded to John Holland." I recommend combining these sentences as well.
  • "In November 2012, a $19.7 million contract was signed with Ansaldo STS Australia" I recommend adding a wikilink to [Hitachi Rail STS]] here.
  • "Included in the funding for the project was four new Transperth B-series trains, and 11 new buses." Change was to were, and delete the comma.

Commissioning and opening

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  • "The first train ran on the extension on 25 August 2014. Train driver familiarisation began after that." I recommend combining these sentences.
  • "The station was opened on 21 September 2014 by Premier Colin Barnett and Minister for Transport Dean Nalder. It was several months early, and $20 million under budget." As above, combine these sentences.
  • "The PTA said that a larger earth noise wall would be built there." This was in December 2014, has a noise wall been built yet?
    • Couldn't find anything on this. There is very little information on the aftermath of this, despite it being quite high up in Perth news in the weeks after the station opened. I even had to use a print source to get that information, as there was nothing online. Steelkamp (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In August 2015, the station had 2,022 daily boardings, and in its first year of operation, the station had 600,000 boardings." I suggest rewording this as "In August 2015, the station had 2,022 daily boardings, with a total of 600,000 in its first year of operation."

Railway extension north of Butler

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  • "The platforms at Butler station will be extended. The extension is planned to be open late 2023." I recommend rewriting this as "As part of the extension, planned to open in late 2023, the platforms at Butler station will be extended."

Services

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  • "Joondalup line trains depart the station every 10 minutes during peak on weekdays, and every 15 minutes during the day outside peak every day of the year except Christmas Day." This sentence is a bit confusing to read. The second part is hard to understand, specifically "every 15 minutes during the day outside peak every day of the year". I suggest ending the sentence after "outside peak", and then starting a new sentence that says "Trains run every day of the year except Christmas Day."
  • "Route 491 was introduced alongside the new station. The other routes already existed, but were rerouted when the station opened." These sentences can be combined, perhaps with a semicolon.
  • "Rail replacement services operate as route 904." I suggest wikilinking Rail replacement bus service here.
  • Delete the unused "notes" column from the tables here, there's no need for it (and it attracts cruft, in my opinion).

Photos and miscellaneous

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  • A few of the image captions aren't very descriptive. Specifically, "Butler station platform 1" and "Butler station concourse" are very minimal descriptions that don't say much and could be expanded.
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