Talk:Burton Rocks

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sorry for confusion. requesting article be revised to conform to Wikipedia neutrality so COI can be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swort123 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Regards, Spintendo 16:07, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I noticed there was a page issue tag placed on article so was attempting to assist in article editing and cleanup.Wiscbadger (talk) 17:56, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, attempting to cleanup article as I noticed there was page issue on it that needed to be addressed so it could be removed. Wiscbadger (talk) 20:38, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of clients

Looking at other articles on sports agents, a lot of them seem like a mess... But of those which have solid sources, they generally don't list every notable client. In this case, clients of the C.L. Rocks Corporation do not necessarily belong in an article which is mainly about a sports writer. Looking at these sources, they appear to be routine passing mentions cited to special-interest sites or just plain ol' press releases. The use of baseball-reference.com seems like an example of routine information being included without any particular context of larger indication of encyclopedic significance. This seems like it might fall under WP:VNOTSUFF. Grayfell (talk) 22:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. This is a recurring problem. Every time I mention something as an example of a more complex problem, someone fixes only that one issue and ignores the underlying point. If it were just that simple I would've done it myself.

So. Why are some athletes listed but not others? Isn't all of this fairly routine and indiscriminate? Here is my question, and I'm being entirely sincere: It is encyclopedically significant to list all notable clients of a sports agent's company in the biography of that agent? I honestly don't know, but my inclination is that it is not, just as it is not appropriate to list all products a company manufactures even when they are independently notable.

For the DeJong contract, there is context. It's still kind of puffy writing, but it is context supported by reliable sources. Is there similar context for these other athletes, or should the list be removed? Should it instead be reformatted? Grayfell (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The editor above raises a good point. After reviewing other articles on sports agents, the listing of clients in the agent section of this article does not conform to standard encyclopedic format per WP manual of style. A brief statement describing the relevance of a particularly important client(e.g., DeJong) to the agent in that section is better suited to this article section. Wiscbadger (talk) 15:19, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What "reformatting" would someone suggest to fix the section? Might it be fixed simply by adding a qualification like "Some client include..." ? - kosboot (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is the section I removed based on comments above:

Agency clients include:Jim Riggleman,^[1]^[2]Joe Oliver,^[3] Dave Eiland,^[4] Charlie Montoyo,^[5] Stump Mitchell,^[6]Alex Cintron,^[7] Robinson Cancel,^[8] Kip Wells,^[9] Paul DeJong,^[10]^[11],Aaron Wilkerson^[12]and Sean Burnett. ^[13]

Thank you Kosboot. You seemed to have resolved issue.Wiscbadger (talk) 17:53, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Ladson, Bill. "Riggleman talks managing Reds' turnaround". MLB.com. Retrieved July 19, 2018.
^ Blum, Ronald. "Riggleman knows he may be viewed as Mets' manager in waiting". Associated Press. Retrieved November 27, 2018.
^ "Joe Oliver to be named Spinners skipper". ESPN.com.
^ Ken Davidoff. "Dave Eiland, Andy Pettitte, Joe Girardi and John Farrell". Newsday.
^ Davidi, Shi. "What new manager Charlie Montoyo brings to Blue Jays". Sportsnet. Retrieved October 25, 2018.
^ "Stump Mitchell a candidate to coach at Southern". tribunedigital-baltimoresun.
^ "Nationals Journal - Hector Taveras suspended, Alex Cintron signed". Washington Post.
^ Jeff Sullivan. "POLL: The Best Baseball Agent Name". SBNation.com. Vox Media.
^ "Kip Wells - remember him - is back with White Sox on a minor-league deal". CBSSports.com.
^ Langosch, Jenifer. "Q&A: DeJong talks offseason, holidays & more". MLB.com. Retrieved December 22, 2017.
^ Davenport, Matt (July 29, 2018). "Science is in the (baseball) cards and comic books". cen.acs.org. Chemical & Engineering News. Retrieved July 29, 2018.
^ Davidoff, Ken. "Meet Freezer Man: Aaron Wilkerson's unlikely rise to Brewers reliever". New York Post. Retrieved April 26, 2019.
^ "Sean Burnett Stats". Baseball Reference. Retrieved February 12, 2019.

[1] Ladson, Bill. "Riggleman talks managing Reds' turnaround". MLB.com. Retrieved July 19, 2018.

[2] Blum, Ronald. "Riggleman knows he may be viewed as Mets' manager in waiting". Associated Press. Retrieved November 27, 2018.

[3] "Joe Oliver to be named Spinners skipper". ESPN.com.

[4] Ken Davidoff. "Dave Eiland, Andy Pettitte, Joe Girardi and John Farrell". Newsday.

[5] Davidi, Shi. "What new manager Charlie Montoyo brings to Blue Jays". Sportsnet. Retrieved October 25, 2018.

[6] "Stump Mitchell a candidate to coach at Southern". tribunedigital-baltimoresun.

[7] "Nationals Journal - Hector Taveras suspended, Alex Cintron signed". Washington Post.

[auto1-8] Jeff Sullivan. "POLL: The Best Baseball Agent Name". SBNation.com. Vox Media.

[9] "Kip Wells - remember him - is back with White Sox on a minor-league deal". CBSSports.com.

[10] Langosch, Jenifer. "Q&A: DeJong talks offseason, holidays & more". MLB.com. Retrieved December 22, 2017.

[11] Davenport, Matt (July 29, 2018). "Science is in the (baseball) cards and comic books". cen.acs.org. Chemical & Engineering News. Retrieved July 29, 2018.

[12] Davidoff, Ken. "Meet Freezer Man: Aaron Wilkerson's unlikely rise to Brewers reliever". New York Post. Retrieved April 26, 2019.

[13] "Sean Burnett Stats". Baseball Reference. Retrieved February 12, 2019.

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