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Pre-FAC review

Looking at just the lead, the word company is used 13 or 14 times. It reads well, but there are enough little issues that would likely cause some trouble at FAC. I think I could do a light copyedit on this if you'd like. It would take me several days - just let me know. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:14, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

OK< here's the current first paragraph of the lead and my tweaked version - is this OK?

Burger King, often abbreviated as BK, is a global chain of hamburger fast food restaurants headquartered in unincorporated Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. The company began as a Jacksonville, Florida-based restaurant chain in 1953 originally called Insta-Burger King. After the company ran into financial difficulties in 1955, its two Miami-based franchisees, David Edgerton and James McLamore, purchased the company and rechristened it Burger King. Over the next half century the company would trade hands four times, with its third set of owners, a partnership of TPG Capital, Bain Capital, and Goldman Sachs Capital Partners, taking the company public in 2002. The current ownership group, 3G Capital of Brazil, acquired a majority stake in the company in a deal valued at $3.26 billion (USD) in late 2010.

Burger King, often abbreviated as BK, is a worldwide chain of hamburger fast food restaurants headquartered in unincorporated Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. The company began in 1953 as Insta-Burger King, a Jacksonville, Florida-based restaurant chain. After Insta-Burger King ran into financial difficulties in 1955, its two Miami-based franchisees, David Edgerton and James McLamore, purchased the company and rechristened it Burger King. Over the next half century the company would change hands four times, with its third set of owners, a partnership of TPG Capital, Bain Capital, and Goldman Sachs Capital Partners, taking it public in 2002. In late 2010 3G Capital of Brazil acquired a majority stake in BK in a deal valued at $3.26 billion (USD).

Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:24, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Lead concerns - I am not 100% sure about these two sentences:

The manner in which the company licenses its franchisees varies depending on the region, with some regional franchises, known as master franchises, responsible for selling franchise sub-licenses on the company's behalf. I made "franchisee" plural as it made more sense that way. As it is though, the sentence still has franchise(s) 3x and franchisees once more
I did a search and the phrase "master franchise" only appears once in the whole article, here in the lead. Per WP:LEAD the lead is supposed to be a summary of the whole article and not introduce anything new or be the only place something improtant is mentioned. I just re-read the Franchises section and think I would mention the financial struggles of the franchisees and how they affected large numbers of BK restaurants and the company itself over the years rather than this. What do you think? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Tweaked the international operations section to include the phrase and explain the term better. I'll do some more work through the weekend. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 08:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Should the purchase be more clearly identified in After the purchase of the company in 2002, Burger King began to aggressively target the 18–34 male demographic with larger products that often carried correspondingly large amounts of unhealthy fats and trans-fats. I think this refers to taking the company public then, so would something like "After the company went public in 2002, ..."?
I went ahead and made this change a few minutes ago. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC) References - the article currently uses two kinds of citations, which I think would be an issue at FAC. There are both "Notes" and "References" but to be honest I cannot figure out why one is used and not the other. Usually if an article has Notes and References, the Notes are explanatory text and are frequently cited themselves (see for example Clemuel Ricketts Mansion, a FA which has both). I have also seen Notes used for references to specfic pages in a work, with the works cited in a References (or Bibliography) section. Here though, I am not sure what the rationale for something being a Note is versus something being a Reference. I also think that many of the Notes could be combined - if a reference is used multiple times, the "ref name" tag is one way to use the same numbered superscript for all cites to the same source. Here the first five notes appear to be identical as all are "2010 10-K SEC Filing, p. 73" and should probably all be condensed into five uses of the same source.

I also see that the same source, "2010 10-K SEC Filing", is used as a Reference (without a page number) elsewhere in the article (Ref 2). Again, I am not sure why the source is a Note most of the time, but is Ref 2, and why page numbers are given in all but one case for the use of this source (all nine Notes to 2010 10-K SEC Filing specify a page number, but the Ref 2 use of it does not). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:22, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I'll try to answer your references questions:

I used two different formats of references because several of the references, especially the books, have multiple reference points utilized to support different facts about the company. For example, I utilized the company's 2010 10K form to support information about franchises, financial data and global locations. The notes point to different pages in the source material such as page 7, 46 and the addenda of the document.

The Info box has several references in it that show up separately because of transclusion. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 06:16, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but I am still confused by this system and worry that it would be a real problem at FAC. If I understand what you are saying correctly, is the goal to use Notes for sources that have page numbers and References for sources that do not? If that is the case, then it is not done consistently. There are several sources used in the References section that include page numbers, and at least one source, the 2010 10-K SEC Filing, is cited as both a Note and as a Reference.
So here are the problems I see with the Notes and References as they currently exist:

Fixed

If an article has both a Notes and a References section, the Notes are usually used for explanatory text (notes or extra material that would be distracting in the main text, but which will explain more to the interested reader). This is not iron-clad, but as the article currently exists, there is no clear distinction between the two and there should be one and it should followed rigorously (so if only sources with page numbers are in Notes, move all the References with page numbers to Notes). Another solution would be to have the Notes be for explanatory text (which can cite sources), the References cite sources (with a brief version of the title for things with page numbers), and to have a Bibliography or Works cited section after these with full information on sources with page numbers. (an examples of this style is Clemuel Ricketts Mansion), there are other ways to do this).

The infobox citations have to follow the same style as the rest of the article (they do now, but whatever changes are made have to be done to the infobox refs too).

Having multiple citations to the exact same source will be a problem at FAC, where the very strong preference is to see such citations combined (so instead of Notes 19, 21, 23, and 24 being to "Reiter, p. 64" and Reference 5 being to the same thing but in much more detail "^ Reiter, Ester (March 1996). Making Fast Food: From the Frying Pan Into the Fryer (2nd ed.). McGill-Queen's University Press. p. 64. ISBN 0773513876. http://books.google.com/?id=oBj-sPpJDQcC&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=donald+smith+burger+king. Retrieved 6 April 2008. "franchise agreements were changed..."", there should one entry for this source with multiple cites to it.

There are at least two citations where a single page is abbreviated "pp." (but it should be just "p.")

My intention was that this review would be a dialogue. I can copyedit text, but I do not want to do the grunt work of systematically fixing all the references, and there are things I do not understand or have questions on (like the master franchis sentence above). I expect a response on the lead questions too, which is part of why what I was waiting for before moving on. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- PS WOuld it help to ask someone who reviews sources at FAC to take a look at this article, specifically the Notes and References section? This would not be a full-scale evaluation of the references as is done at FAC (making sure they meet WP:RS, etc.) but just an outside view of the system used here? I f you would like, I can ask someone. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:18, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry about not being more responsive, I have been exceptionally busy with real word work and life. I will try to keep up. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 19:27, 25 March 2011 (UTC)::I did not mean to come across so crabby - sorry too (and I understand, I have been quite busy in real life too). One good thing is that there are no deadlines on Wiki. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:13, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Part Two

I have re-read the article. It looks pretty good overall and I do not think it is too far from FA standards. The references are still a mjor concern for me, and I am going to skip the lead and start by commenting on each section in turn. History to start, but wanted to leave this note first. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I am going to make general comments on the content of each section before doing any sort of copyedits

History

- I would include the purchase on Monday, and the resulting move of BK's headquarters to a Toronto suburb (Ontario, Canada). Jawsborne (talk) 19:27, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
Done - I would include a historic image here if possible - there is the old logo in the main History of article that might work here
Seems odd to have an 11 year gap in the Pillsbury era (1967 to 1978). I assume the number of restaurants grew by quite a bit in this time period - could something like that be included?
Done - I would include the year when Diageo formed
Done - The first paragraph covers 14 years or so (1953 to 1967), the second paragraph covers perhaps 22 years (1978 to 2000) or 33 years if it is 1967 to 2000, and the last paragraph covers about 11 years (2000 to 2011), so the middle paragraph might need to be expanded / split
- Fixed

Structure

Done - This section seemed pretty muddled to me - 2 paragraphs are on current corporate structure, but 3 paragraphs are on the corporate headquarters building. Perhaps calling the section something like "Corporate structure and headquarters" would help?
Done - More importantly the chronology in the section on the HQ is reversed - unless there is a good reason not to, it is usually easiest / best to go in chronological order. So I would start with the former HQ, then talk about the current one
Done - This makes no sense 2007 is before 2008 Burger King announced in 2008 that it planned to move its headquarters to a proposed office building in Coral Gables.[41] The company reversed its decision in 2007...
- Working - I expanded the section a bit explaining what Burger King does as a company and how it runs its operations. A bit more remains. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 22:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
  - Completed - I re-edited this section to be more descriptive and remove confusion --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 08:35, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

International operations

Done The expansion into international markets could be mentioned in History (since it began in the 11 year gap)
- I tweaked the layout of the article so that International expansion comes after Franchises. This alters the article flow so there is a logical move from domestic expansion to international expansion. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:34, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Done Statements like this need a year / date for context While Burger King lags behind McDonald's in international locations by over 12,000 stores [as of 2007], it has managed to become the largest chain in several countries including Mexico and Spain.[47]
Done - It is not clear to me what the current relation between Hungry Jack's and BK is now (after the failed attempt by BK to move into Australia under the BK name)
Done - I would clearly say that the TenderCrisp and TenderGrill sandwiches are chicken
Done - Since Yum! does not operate any restaurants under that name, I would identify a least some of the brands it includes (Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut)
- Working --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 08:36, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
  - Completed --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:37, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 05:29, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Give me a little time to look at the issues and I will start working on this after the first. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 06:38, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

No hurry - when you have addressed these issues I will look at the next several sections. I can also do a light copyedit if you want. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 13:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - I will make more comments soon. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 22:19, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I have read the revised sections and they look better - got involved in some wikidrama, sorry for the delay. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:52, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I am trying to expand the history section to better summarize the 80s and 90s. It is hard due to the need to keep it succinct. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 21:18, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Franchises

Done - BKC is not defined before its first use here (clear it is Burger King Corporation, but the abbreviation should follow the first use of that name per the MOS)
- I noted the abbreviation in the Structure section. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:23, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Done - I do not understand this Under this new franchise agreement, new owners were disallowed from living more than one hour from their restaurants – preventing corporations from owning franchises. why couldn't there just be small corporations which owned franchises in an hour or so radius around the main stockholder's house? Or did they forbid corporations from owning franchises? Yet individuals will often incorporate to limit liability (they can take the business but not the owner's house)
- I tried to clarify the statement to differentiate who could own franchises. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Done - Did Pillsbury actively stall growth or did their changes lead to a stall in growth? By 1988, parent company Pillsbury had relaxed many of Smith's changes, scaled back on the construction of new locations and stalled growth.[10]
- I clarified the statement --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Done - I do not think the article needs to say {USD) after each dollar amount - it is an American corporation, so I think readers will assume these are US dollar figures. Since I am reading it piece meal, I may have missed amounts in other currencies.
Done - Already said it was 2001 and "the company" is not clear here (assume AmeriKing) By 2001, the company, which until this point had been struggling under a nearly $300 million (USD) debt load and been shedding stores across the US, was forced to enter Chapter 11 bankruptcy.[60] Since AMeriking is used in the preceding and following sentences, would "the franchise"" work here? That way it would not be confused with BK.
Done - I would identify Bradley Blum as the BK CEO just to be clear - also this is the place to link him (first occurrence, not second)
Done - Franchisees and owners are both used - might help to just use one, especially in the first sentence of the next paragraph after heavy use of franchisee? Individual owners [franchisees?] took advantage of the AmeriKing failure...
The language here is a bit rougher than the previous sections - my plan is to focus on content and structure first, then do a copyedit, so I am not too worried about that now. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Completed --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 19:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

International operations 2

Question - are there other countries in East Asia not listed here? Beginning in 1982, BK and its franchisees began operating stores in several East Asian countries, including Japan, Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea.[15] If these are the only ones, then it could be much tighter as something like In 1982, BK and its franchisees began operating stores Japan, Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea.[15] (could say "and other countries" at the end if needed)
Similarly BK's Central and South American operations began in Mexico in the late 1970s, and by the early 1980s in Caracas, Venezuela, Santiago, Chile and Buenos Aires, Argentina.[15] might omit the Central and South America part - is just listing the countries enough?
Or it could be tighter as Burger King's subsidiary Burger King Europe GmbH is responsible for the licensing and development of BK franchises in Europe, Africa and western Asia.[72] The BK AsiaPac, Pte. Ltd. business unit handles franchising for East Asia, the Asian subcontinent and all Oceanic territories except Australia.[46][73]
Year would help here - "now" is vague - when was the lawsuit? After losing a lawsuit filed against it by Hungry Jack's ownership, the company ceded the territory to its franchisee.[68] Hungry Jack's is now the only Burger King brand in Australia...
I do not understand this sentence Over a 10-year period starting in 2008, Burger King predicted 80 percent of its market share would be driven by foreign expansion, particularly in the Asia-Pacific and Indian subcontinent regional markets.[76]
This makes it sound like TPG still owns them While the TPG-lead group continued BK's international expansion by announcing plans to open new franchise locations in Eastern Europe, Africa and the Middle East, and Brazil, the company plan is focusing on the three largest markets – India, China and Japan.[77][78][79][80]

Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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In info box, remove Ben K. Wells as CFO, replace with Daniel S. Schwartz 31 EVP, Chief Financial Officer -

Lisa Allen (talk) 22:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

The info box isn't in this article as it is a linked template, follow the view link in the box. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 02:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand? Warren (talk) 03:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

The info box is a template located elsewhere ({{Infobox Burger King}}). --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 04:51, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Intro

Does anyone else think the introduction to this article might be too long? Just chcking. Warren (talk) 18:53, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

It is appropriate for the size article per WP:Lead. It has also undergone a pre-FAC review and has been edited according to the guidelines. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 03:33, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Ok great Jeremy. You know a lot about this stuff! Warren (talk) 02:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Note: possible inaccuracy

This is a very good article, but I will just point out a couple of sentences that I found a little problematic. "The failure of AmeriKing deeply affected the value of Burger King, and put negotiations between Diaego and the TPC Capital-lead group on hold. The developments eventually forced Diaego to lower the total selling price of the chain by almost $750 million dollars.[62]" The Phyllis Bergman reference (62) does not explicitly say that the failure of AmeriKing reduced the value of BK when Diageo sold it. I have built the Paul S. Walsh page to GA status (he is the CEO of Diageo), and although I can't find the reference at the moment, I remember reading that BK was eventually sold for less money than was originally expected because the global finance markets temporarily dried up in the wake of 9/11. Farrtj (talk) 12:46, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Another inaccuracy: please research the purchase on Monday and update the location of its headquarters (Ontario, Canada). Jawsborne (talk) 19:25, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

2013 UK horse meat scandal

Under "5 Controversies and legal cases", should it include reference to the 2013 UK horse meat scandal? By 17th Feb 2013 Burger King had silently dropped the premium Angus burger from its range and its web site after having been shown to be included in the horse meat scandal.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jan/31/burger-king-horsemeat

http://www.burgerking.co.uk/menu/the-angus — Preceding unsigned comment added by SandJ-on-WP (talk • contribs) 10:28, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Logos through the Years

Wikipedia is missing a few of the older logos of Burger King.For example,the 1969-1994 bun logo amd the slightly edited 1994-1999 logo with less cartoony looking letters.They should be uploaded to Wikipedia soon. --24.147.1.197 (talk) 19:12, 26 July 2013 (UTC)by Jacob Chesley--24.147.1.197 (talk) 19:12, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

See Burger King Advertising --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 08:05, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

The long struggle

The history section makes it sound like the company has been struggling to stay in business ever since it was founded. But it's got outlets all around the world, so couldn't have gone too badly.

It sounds like it was written by a rival. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.109.166.164 (talk) 02:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

No, it wasn't. The truth is the truth, the company has been poorly managed off and on for much of its history. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 07:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I never said it was written by a rival, i said sounds like it. Nearly the entire section is about how "poorly managed" it was and nothing about how it became a global brand it is today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2002:1F6E:7682:0:0:0:1F6E:7682 (talk) 16:34, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Even with a history of mediocre management, a strong brand and concept has a decent chance of success. Farrtj (talk) 11:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

The recent move to Canada points to some level of difficulty. This needs to be updates. The listed location is not accurate anymore.Jawsborne (talk) 19:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Buffet

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Change Warren Buffet to Warren Buffett

Done Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:11, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Recent wording edit

There was a minor edit to the article which changed a term from "based around" to "based on" regarding the Insta-Broiler unit the early Insta-Burger King used, made on the premise that the former is incorrect grammar and the latter is proper. That is not the case as you can use either. As the primary author, I chose the former in order to outline that the company built the business around the concept of broiling burgers with this device, but it was not dependent on the broiler for the whole concept. You can also say that they built their business on, but that implies that the entire business model was dependent solely on the broiler, which it wasn't. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 06:14, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I looked back to see when the words "based around" were added to this article. It occurred on July 17, 2012 by InedibleHulk. He didn't add the words, he changed the sentence, accidentely making these words appear. So I changed it to what it originally was before Hulk instituted this typo. Anyway, considering the incredible number of edits you've made to this article, I defer to you. GroveGuy (talk) 16:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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Burger King, often abbreviated as BK, also known as Hungry Jack's in Australia, is a global chain of hamburger fast food restaurants headquartered in unincorporated Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. 86.21.150.28 (talk) 18:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Kharkiv07 ^Talk 18:28, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Photos

Seeing that 66% of the stores are in the US, do you think that at least ONE of the photos in this article could be of a store in the US? Do we really need two stores from the UK and two from Mexico?

166.177.250.189 (talk) 04:42, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Why does it matter? Think about it, Burger King is an American company, owned by a Brazilian investment firm that is now legally based in Canada. Further, the majority of its future locations are expected to be located outside of North America within a few years. So what if the pictures are of foreign locations?

Hey, I wrote most of this stuff and it doesn't really faze me that the images used are from outside the US. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 07:07, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Why does it matter that an encyclopedic article contains representative content? Is that really what you must asked? LMAO!

166.170.39.142 (talk) 06:40, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

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What About Burger King in Middle East?

Hi. Why is there nothing in this article about Burger King's activities in the Middle East, especially considering the amount of news material on the topic over the last few years? It would seem to me that it should be included... Also, why is there limited information - almost sporadic - about the ownership of Burger King? Isn't that one of the central premises to be included in an encyclopaedic article about a business enterprise? In both cases, it seems as if a sizeable piece of information has been left out of the topic at hand... Regards, Steve Stevenmitchell (talk) 11:03, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

this is an article in what is known as WP: summary style. You would find that information in the Burger King franchises article. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 04:01, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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I could be wrong, but shouldn't the first sentence underneath Burger King#Controversies and legal cases say 1953 instead of 1954, to reflect its original foundation year? 173.73.227.128 (talk) 02:14, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Interesting question. Technically BK was formed in 1954 following the bankruptcy of InstaBK, which, in it of itself, is a controversy.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 23:58, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Question: Do we count InstaBK for the purpose of this edit? -- Dane2007 ^talk 03:59, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

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More news on their improving their products section.. Would go good after "The Whopper was the most prominently reformulated product in this round of introductions with a new type of cheese and packaging."

In December 2016 it was announced that by the end of 2017 there would no longer be antibiotics used in their chicken. ^[1] Ilikerealnews (talk) 16:08, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

done, with higher quality ref. Jytdog (talk) 16:46, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

References

^ "Tim Hortons and Burger King to Drop Antibiotics Use in Chickens". newsline.com. 29 December 2016. Retrieved 1 January 2017.

The King of Burgers

My dad would always refer to Burger King as the "King of Burgers". User talk:M briglia05 13:41, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

@M briglia05: Your dad isn't a reliable source for article content. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:38, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

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Please add Egypt to the list of countries that have Burger King Bambozya (talk) 11:26, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:33, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

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hold the bacon

Under International Operations I believe it would be value added to state, in parenthesis, after "The company divides its international operations into three segments; the Middle East" the following: (In Muslim countries, beef bacon replaces pork bacon) This will let folks know that BK is understanding of local laws, customs and religions)Jerrycarroll (talk) 06:47, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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Please Update Link

The link for reference 122 is out of date; the link loads the main website page instead of the intended article. Would someone with edit permissions please update this link?

Thanks. Hydraxan14 (talk) 00:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Kinda done. Replaced it with an archived copy, but same effect.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 23:39, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Original Burger King

Please bring back his image! He represented the chain from 1957 to 1969. He was heavy-set with a powdered wig and such a large Coke cup to handle with a single hand that he must have been quite strong to do it. Heff01 (talk) 04:01, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2016

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Can you please unprotect this article? It have been protected for a long time. 66.167.141.26 (talk) 13:25, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

You first need to ask the protecting admin:-
To find out which admin protected the page click on "View history" at the top of the article page (not this talk page), then click on "View logs for this page" which is immediately under the title of the page.
In this instance it was User:Dabomb87, but looking at Special:Contributions/Dabomb87 s/he has not edited since 19 January 2014, so there is little point in asking them.
You, therefore, need to go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for reduction in protection level explain who the protecting admin was, and that they are no longer active, and explain WHY you think the page should be unprotected. - Arjayay (talk) 13:59, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Comment - The reason this article is permanently semi-protected is that it has been the subject of numerous vandalism actions by IP editors. Each time the protection has been removed, the vandalism began in earnest and the protection had to be reinstated. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 17:15, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

protection questioned - doesn't look like vandalism ::

Although I haven't done an complete search, I looked at a couple of revisions done and disagree with calling them vandalism. They look like legitimate contributions.

I note the lack of updates to the article to recognize that BK is no longer an American company but rather a subsidiary. A transition performed for tax inversion. It seems like the protection is provided to ensure a favourable article rather than an accurate one.

I too am seeing an attempt to resist the fact that BK is no longer an American company. I wonder whose head would exlode if the leadin sentence was changed to reflect reality?P Everseeker (talk) 17:11, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPs_are_human_too I don't see the benefit to logging in - there are just too many passwords running around my head to keep another one in there. When I have contributions that are solid I put them in. I am a scientist. When I have doubts I put them in talk. Don't categorize all IP editors as spammers or you end up with out of date articles like this one.

See tax inversion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_inversion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.184.76 (talk) 12:52, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2019

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"in February of 2019" = "in February 2019" 2605:E000:9149:8300:94C6:FF7C:FC14:3328 (talk) 02:00, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Done Thanks! ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 03:59, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2020

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Peepeepoopoo101010101 (talk) 16:51, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

there where some mistakes in spelling

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. aboideau^talk 16:57, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

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190.86.96.139 (talk) 22:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC) The Logo is Changing to a more Retro one. https://supertrademarks.marcaria.com/bdb/trademarkImage/MS16Z3B3TzdFTnZYVmNoNG9ITW9OMjNob3A5YmEvMmhTbDgxcjR3NXVZOUdzPXxVU1RNLjg4ODk2NzEyfDY3LzEyLzg4ODk2NzEyLXRoLmpwZw==.jpg I found this in US Trademarks.

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Co-founder of Insta-Burger King is Keith G. Cramer

The founders of Insta-Burger King were Matthew Burns and Keith G. Cramer, not Keith J. Kramer as written in the article. Please correct it.

Sources for the name:

McLamore, Jim; The Burger King: A Whopper of a Story on Life and Leadership (2020): "Keith G. Cramer and Matthew L. Burns"
Cooley, Angela Jill; To Live and Dine in Dixie: The Evolution of Urban Food Culture in the Jim Crow South (2015): "Matthew L. Burns [...] and his son-in-law, Keith G. Cramer"
Smith, Andrew F.; Encyclopedia of Junk Food and Fast Food (2006): "Matthew Burns of Long Beach, California, invited his stepson, Keith G. Cramer"
Jakle, John A. et al; Fast Food: Roadside Restaurants in the Automobile Age (1999): "Matthew Burns of Long Beach, California, and Keith G. Cramer, Burns' stepson"
Langdon, Philip; Orange Roofs, Golden Arches: The Architecture of American Chain Restaurants (1986): "Cramer and Burns went to Jacksonville"

Furthermore, here is a scan of an advertising pamphlet from the time, it reads "Owned by Keith Cramer and Matthew Burns"

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New Logo

The 2020 logo and the 1994 logo looks the same, can you double check if they both match up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikihelper910 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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Please add a comma between "but beginning in the early 1980s" and "Burger King advertising began losing focus". 68.12.168.117 (talk) 23:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Done —Sirdog (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2022

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Change "Burger King reported it had 17,796 outlets" to "Burger King reported that it had 17,796 outlets". 68.12.168.117 (talk) 23:09, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Done —Sirdog (talk) 01:49, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Please check for typos

For one, Diageo is occasionally misspelled Diageo. Since it is semi-protected, someone with the appropriate privileges should proofread.

That's the same word... Mousenight (talk) 02:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Overly verbose introduction

There's too much in the introduction paragraphs, and I feel it should be made more concise. Most of paragraphs 1 and 2 are unreasonably extensive in their historical depth about the company, for which we already have a dedicated section further within the article. Mousenight (talk) 02:53, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2022 (2)

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Burger King once made a tweet saying that women belong in the kitchen and it got a lot of backlash I want to add that to the article 我的兄弟姐妹太多了他們都很煩人 (talk) 04:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

If you read the article, you can find the information already there. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:54, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Edit to header

On the header where it says "Burger King Corporation", I want it to be edited to "Burger King Company LLC", because that is the organization which is credited in all recent promotional material for the chain. 207.191.193.60 (talk) 18:32, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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Dragontimmy (talk) 16:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

ok

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 17:07, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2023

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There has been a meme for Burger King containing a song. "Whopper Whopper Whopper Whopper" Yitler (talk) 13:29, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:36, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Double paragraph under Advertising

Id fix it myself but yall locked it, rough. Literally more or less the exact same paragraph twice, fix it. 2001:56A:FCF1:DF00:F907:FBB7:9E0F:F5DF (talk) 23:00, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Done --Kinu ^t/_c 04:12, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Unusually low "F" BBB Rating

A search of the franchise headquarters on Better Business Bureau returns 53 total "F" BBB Ratings: https://www.bbb.org/search?filter_ratings=F&find_country=USA&find_latlng=25.808704%2C-80.384654&find_loc=West%20Dade%2C%20FL&find_text=burger%20king%20corporation&page=1&touched=3 Katiekat466 (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Your lack of Veteran support, my wife and I eat at one of your locations 4 times a week, after reading your lack of Veteran Appreciation you have seen my last dollar!!!

Lack of Veteran Support and Appreciation you have seen my last dollar 72.51.252.204 (talk) 11:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

geeee TheMaggster (talk) 00:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

jeez TheMaggster (talk) 00:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

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Burger King foot lettuce

Why isn't Burger King foot lettuce in the controversies section? TheMaggster (talk) 01:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Burger King foot lettuce

Why isn't Burger King foot lettuce in the controversies section? TheMaggster (talk) 01:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lede is TOO Long

OK folks, this seems obvious - but the lede section is WAY too long. It should, IMHO, be broken down into the conventional sections. Everything after that first paragraph needs to be relocated or deleted. Anyone agree? 174.171.71.34 (talk) 09:40, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2023

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Memesohw (talk) 16:54, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 (burger kings is not recommended for young kids and pregnant woman)

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@Memesohw 75.89.198.12 (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Lede is TOO Long

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