Talk:Brown thrasher/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi -I'll make straightforward copyedits as I go (please revert if I inadvertently change the meaning) and jot questions below: Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

• I don't understand why ref 7 has p. 412 and p. 544 in it.
  • Fixed. LeftAire (talk) 02:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
• Can you follow what I've done here? You can easily format references like this, so going through to name and reduce replication will neaten up the reference section.
  • Fixed all that required sourcing from same page. LeftAire (talk) 02:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
• Fullstops and commas go before the inline reference 0 might be hard to see but you get the idea...
  • I believe that all the sources aren't before commas, periods, etc. now. LeftAire (talk) 02:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
• "the rate doesn't warrant a status" --> "does not" (we don't generally abbreviate like this - bit too informal....)

• There is likely to be a bunch more journal stuff - so will add some as I go.

• Watch singular/plural. Generally easiest to write as singular.
  • I think those that needed to be edited are now. LeftAire (talk) 02:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
  • For some reason or another, I cannot reduce the replications properly without some citing errors appearing on the preview page. Reference 7? I'm not sure which one you mean now, but I'll keep looking. And I'll continue editing singular/plural as I ago along. Thanks for reviewing! LeftAire (talk) 21:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
    • It's now ref 10 (the Sibley one) - don't worry, you get more familiar with the referencing as you go....Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:53, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
      • I'm starting to get the hang of it, now. Thanks!LeftAire (talk) 21:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

• Where possible, add ref parameters, especially accessdate in web-only sources - like this Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:42, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

• Link things like other species of bird mentioned, but only at the first time mentioned.

• I removed the gallery as it only had images of adult birds, which added nothing new to the article. Look at the commons images to see what could be added. There are a couple of sound files. I added a nest and egg image and the audubon painting looks nice. The best thing is to sprinkle relevant images thru the text.

• Also, have more of a look in Google Scholar for articles the Brown Thrasher - I can fetch some fulltexts if needed. I'll look a little later too, but need to sleep now.
  • I've added a few more links, and edited a few that weren't properly linked over the past few weeks. I'll try and find more peer reviews and Google Scholar links, but the majority that I could find useful are from JSTOR and out of my reach for money. I though I had something with the relation with to the closest Thrashers by adding onto it, but the BT was thrown out of the Study b/c it wasn't closely related to the Mimids of the Caribbean compared to the Northern Mockingbird & Grey Catbird. I'll try and find some more later this week, and sorry for the late response. LeftAire (talk) 17:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• • • List the links for the ones on JSTOR you want - I have access to fulltext. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
      • [[1]], [[2]], [[3]], [[4]], [[5]], [[6]], are the places from JSTOR that could be of potential benefit. [[7]] is the other source that I feel that can be significant asset, but not JSTOR-related. Thanks for the assisstance in advance! LeftAire (talk) 21:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
        • If you send me a blank/test email I can reply as can't attach anything to "email user" function. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

The first one has fulltext available, checking the others. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:00, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

• I think that the long quote about Audubon wrote to a friend will have to be deleted; see Wikipedia:Do not include the full text of lengthy primary sources. Snowman (talk) 13:38, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Fixed. LeftAire (talk) 15:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

• Sorry, my free time has been patchy. In general, many articles from The Auk and The Condor are fully available in places online. I'll get to the rest of these soon. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
  • It's fine. Once again, thanks for the assistance! LeftAire (talk) 01:25, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
    • Another one is here and here email coming through in a minute. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:10, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
    • PS: Agree the thesis looks interesting, but I can't see how to access it - it didn't come up via my uni logon. If you find anything else, gimme a yell, otherwise I'll take a look at the article once you've finished processing the studies. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:16, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
      • I've obtained the articles. I'll attempt to have read them and make articles by the end of the week. If not, it definitely will be done within 7-8 days. LeftAire (talk) 16:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

• (1) Something's happened to refs 18 and 19 in formatting. (2) adding imperial units to some metric units lacking same (3) we'd normally add all the isbns to the books (found down the page on the "about this book" page of google books....sorry, I know it's a hassle.

• The Animal Diversity website has good material on life expectancy and life span which should be in the article.

Nearly there...good work so far....Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

• The isbn's won't be much as a hassle as that 18 citation. I cannot get that fixed for some odd reason (I've had it happen for a few of those PDF files, but never this much) and I'm taking a break from that and going to look up those ISBN's. Shouldn't be long. LeftAire (talk)`
  • Finally finished the editing that needed it. Everything should be up for a final review. Now I'm going to get some much needed sleep. LeftAire (talk) 08:17, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

1. Well written?:

Prose quality:

Manual of Style compliance:

2. Factually accurate and verifiable?:

References to sources:

Citations to reliable sources, where required:

No original research:

3. Broad in coverage?:

Major aspects:

Focused:

4. Reflects a neutral point of view?:

Fair representation without bias:

5. Reasonably stable?

No edit wars, etc. (Vandalism does not count against GA):

6. Illustrated by images, when possible and appropriate?:

Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales: One last query is where file:Brown-Thrasher-rangemap.gif actually came from - the user must have got it from somewhere which can be identified as the reference. this looks a bit different. You could ask the author or if you find one with the same boundaries then list that as a source of the information. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:43, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

Overall:

Pass or Fail: - looking all in order but one image query. If you have a reliable source map which matches then list it on the image description. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:43, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

The image link problem is fixed. Found it on the National Geographic website. LeftAire (talk) 14:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)