Talk:Brother (1997 film)

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Xenophobic, racist and social darwinist themes

This article is seriously in need of criticism of the film's xenophobic, racist and social darwinist themes. The bullshit paragraph ("Impact") about the "powerful message to the russian audience" really needs to be put in context.80.128.103.6 (talk) 23:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Header added to older ToC-evading edit. DBaK (talk) 22:33, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Xenophobic, racist

Why is there no word on the fact that this movie and teh sequel is violently xenophobic even racist? Its spirit is very ultra-nationalist --184.161.154.90 (talk) 20:23, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cause actually they are NOT xenophobic or racist.

Because in Russian these statements are nothing more than an insult. I want to say all these words in context, not an insult on some grounds, but "only" an insult. The film does not carry the promise to despise someone, I think. Sorry, Google translator. --Ячсмак (talk) 19:19, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Kat (literally "Torturer")"

What a braindamaged moron has thought this nonsense out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.190.161.115 (talk) 03:17, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Poster

I edited the poster to a picture of an English language poster for the film. I am not sure of when either the original or the English poster were released, but I uploaded it so that it would fit on the English Wikipedia more. This change was undone by Andrzejbanas, who said that the earliest possible poster should be used. Looking at a lot of other articles for Russian films, they have English language posters in the page, and I doubt they were the earliest released. I believe the page should use the English poser, as it is easier to identify for English audiences, most of which will be using the English Wikipedia.

Just to clarify, I'm not angry or anything, I just want to know which would be the best way to go about it. AndreyKva (talk) 02:29, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No worries @AndreyKva:. I'm glad we are talking about it! :) I've done a bit of reading, and per WP:FILMPOSTER, "Ideally, an image of the film's original theatrical release poster should be uploaded and added to the infobox to serve as an identifying image for the article." So in general, as film is not like video games which are generally localized, but shown in their original languages and have specific relation with the country they are released in. In other words, for film, if you can, it's best to get a theatrical release poster, which is generally the main country of production after film festivals and what not. I hope we are good. If I'm missing something or you have any questions, feel free to ping me. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 04:24, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. I definitely agree with you, and thank you for linking the rules. I'm glad we could avoid an edit war. Have a good day. AndreyKva (talk) 02:42, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Some useful links

I think these links could be useful for finding information about the movie (both in russian language): https://chapaev.media/films/129

https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/41519/

Good interview here

https://sntat.ru/news/plenka-dlya-brata-film-mulla-i-s-emki-s-balabanovym-intervyu-s-operatorom-sergeem-astahovym-5806825 Victor Grigas (talk) 00:41, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

When filmed ?

Can anyone tell when this pic was shot (roughly - months, presumably in 1995?/96-1997 period) ? Many thanks, --2001:A61:5A6:1501:5D77:ED9F:90B:496E (talk) 21:16, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The movie "Brother" was filmed in the autumn (fall) of 1996, from about October to late November i think. 91.129.102.120 (talk) 22:52, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article bias

This article cites many sources from Russian language media, some/many of which are unreliable, many of the articles are just propaganda fluff pieces. Additionally, the entire article omits a rather important aspect to Brat which has been EXTENSIVELY researched, which is its nationalistic narrative and thematic elements (Yana Hashamova, Frederic White, Vanessa Rampton, to name a few). All in all, this page feels like soft propaganda in line with current Russian nationalism (ie. Brat is the greatest film of all time and communicates an undeniable truth about life) and should be corrected. Hexagoneavectoi (talk) 14:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]