Talk:Brochwel Ysgithrog

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Death date seems curiously specific, and where does the False Brochwel stuff come from?

Given that the sources for this king seem to be much later and there are so few sixth century dates established with any certainty, I would love to know where that 'died c 560' came from and how reliable it is?

The False Brochwel section seems like it could also do with a citation or some supporting evidence.

I read a very old article by Edwin Guest, 'The English Conquest of the Severn Valley' which suggests that Brochwel Ysgithrog and the Battle of Chester Brochmael / Brochfael are the same person, but that he was old and hence was left in charge of guarding the monks at the battle, while his grandson Selyf, was his co-ruler and as the younger king was the battle leader.

There may be good reasons to rule this theory out, it is after all from the late C19th - perhaps this article could tell us why we can be sure Brochwel was dead long before Chester, or at least where to find these sources? 'His grandson was king' doesn't on the face of it seem like a conclusive argument that Brochwel was 50 years dead. Surely even in the Dark Ages, it was possible occasionally for a man to see his grandson grow up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.71.104.222 (talk) 12:19, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]