Talk:British UFO Research Association

Improving BUFORA's page

I do not feel the BUFORA page should be either merged or deleted. BUFORA was and remains a significant element of the British UFO scene, fulfiling a similar role in the UK as MUFON does in the United States! Please retain this entry to represent a very important aspect of British Ufology.

For example, as the new entries demonstrate, BUFORA has produced numerous publications - even mass circulation books. So, yes, it's worthy of inclusion - for that reason alone, but I could also cite numerous other reasons!

I have attempted to provide more references to validate the statements made in this article. I hope it's appreciated that some sources are hard to acquire - it may take some time to provide full validation of all sources; nonetheless the work I've conducted tonight (05/12/08) should hopefully address most of the cited concerns.

I have also rationalised and updated some aspects of the original - which had become notably out of date since it was first created (but not seemingly updated since the entry was created).

I removed the CISCOP comment at the end - as I don't think it had any actual relevance to the BUFORA entry. The association's "reoganisation" had very little connection with the greater availability of camcorders or government attempts to pass off secret aircraft as "UFO's, but everything to do the Internet providing an extensive and wide variety of free UFO information to people within the UK!

"Avalon" (05/12/08) 62.64.200.102 (talk) 00:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear Jehovah so many issues

I'm being bold and starting this from scratch. The whole article appears to be a coatrack for in-fighting within the group, the sources are ridiculous. Fortean Times, fine, but a pipex page as a note? The UFO Times? Since when were these considered reliable secondary sources? Even in their field! No, this needs an overhaul. I'm going in. *puts on rubber gloves* Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 18:56, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I've reverted the page back to the well-sourced version. Please let me know if there's a problem with this. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 18:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Roswell ufo crash

Just watching a documentary on diseconomy of alien species. Which has been made public I think for some time. I am a nurse so find this so absorbing it is fascinating. I believe totally in alien intrusion on our world. They seem to be looking after us as we are doing so much damage to our world. I believe that if there was was any nuclear war they would stop it somehow I don’t believe in God. That name and religion drives me mad as we could all live together so malleably if there wasn’t that name. I believe that it all comes down to aliens looking after us and that is our God. I’m sorry that I’m not very articulate. Thank you for listening xx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:C782:7E01:F43E:9188:72B8:24C9 (talk) 00:25, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Abducted phenomenon

Why isn't there a agency in house that monitor's abducties collecting data,hidden tec at the home of the individual,monitoring health,implants ect for the duration of the repeating abduction. 2A02:C7C:742A:6D00:7C80:4E01:587B:EEA (talk) 15:38, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi the abduction phenomenon is the least understood topic ,there is very little data on the process,which a agency is so important to monitor and collect the data in this field. HIDDEN equipment in the abducties home specialised against electromagnetic interference camera's too hidden for the duration the abduction phenomenon is present, health checks,implants all data saved and stored.In till this is done,then how can we understand the process.zIF you wish to talk further then please contact me on matthewhawkins975@gmail.com thanks and good luck 🤞. 2A02:C7C:742A:6D00:7C80:4E01:587B:EEA (talk) 16:04, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

7 discs

Last July 2022 I spotted 7 opaque discs flying at high speed in some sort of formation. About 2pm I only saw them as I was outside looking up on an exercise bench. 2A00:23C8:928A:C701:A5B3:F84:54C8:2F2A (talk) 22:42, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Spheres

Mettalic Basketball sized spheres, grey colour with markings like looking at a circuit board on the track side. Only approximately 15feet from the ground, moving side by side at high speed totally silent. 2A00:23C5:6806:8601:55D7:CB58:EE45:CE47 (talk) 11:11, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

I have video of orbs during the day can someone help me to send it to the right person 78.86.128.73 (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Is there any way to speak to someone in the feild for a huge discovery I'm to scared to announce it anywhere but would love to be put in the rite direction to who to talk to off books about what iv came across and about what have happened to me and my son

... 2A02:C7C:BEE8:E900:3893:5120:1FB3:2554 (talk) 19:56, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Extremely out of date?

I consulted this article to see how BUFORA was doing these days, but there's no mention of anything more recent than 1997, and a lot may have changed since then. For example, you state that BUFORA has held annual conferences at Sheffield Hallam University since 1987 as if this was a regular ongoing event, but according to BUFORA's own website, by the time they held their 50th anniversary conference in 2012 the venue, presumably due to falling numbers of attendees, was the somewhat less prestigious King's Cross Road Holiday Inn, and I can find no references anywhere to any subsequent conferences.

As for holding "meetings across the country" and running "witness support groups", their website gives no indication that either of these things happens any more. They do run an investigator training course which claims to be "very busy", but it's conducted entirely by email, and no figures are given for how many investigators they train in an average year or currently have on their roster. However, Heather Dixon, the "Director of the National Investigations Committee", appears to be personally responsible for running the entire course, and it wouldn't take a vast number of students to keep one person "very busy". And since the £100 fee is strictly non-refundable, I'm guessing most of them drop out anyway.

You state that "in 1997 the organisation was reported to have around 1,000 members." Well, so what? In the 81st issue of Magonia magazine, dated May 2003, Lionel Beer, then Vice-President of BUFORA and currently its President, so presumably a reliable source, is quoted as saying that "membership is down to just over 200". Mention is also made of monthly meetings in the conference room of Kensington Public Library having been downgraded to bi-monthly lectures "in a room over a pub near Euston Station". So although my source is 20 years out of date, it's more up to date than yours, and tells a very different story!

Two decades on, the only figure for BUFORA's membership I can be sure of is that, since their website gives the names and photos of the terribly important-sounding "BUFORA Committee for Specific Enquiries", it has at least 9 currently active members. Though judging by the amount of material on the site and how recent most of it is, the grand total is almost certainly much less than 100, and may be less than 10.

Seeing as this lazy, useless stub contains no facts that aren't more than a quarter of a century old, says very little about BUFORA's past and absolutely nothing about its present, and concerns a flying saucer club which currently has no newsletter, holds no meetings, gave up on annual conferences over a decade ago, maintains a very basic website which updates twice a year if you're lucky, and appears to have a membership in the low dozens at best, is it worth having an article about BUFORA at all? And if it is, shouldn't it focus on the time when BUFORA was at the peak of its popularity and success, which was about 50 years ago, rather than concentrating on the period between 1994 and 1997? 86.130.233.185 (talk) 19:39, 27 December 2023 (UTC)