Talk:British Invasion (comics)

Deletion?

I'm unsure how this can be up for deletion. However, I would suggest it be moved to British Invasion (comics) (or we could leave it here I suppose but I have never heard it refered to as "Brit Wave" so perhaps not) as that is the better known term. (Emperor 15:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC))

You can find mention of it at the following: [1], [2], [3] (Emperor 16:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC))

Fair play. I'm going to remove the list, because that is quite clearly composed of original research, and I am going to move the page as suggested because it is as it stands a neologism. Hiding Talk 14:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Its also possible that the list has been added to by all sorts of folks to include any British creator who went to work in the US - so having it in text form means people have to justify their additions. I don't have it yet but one of the links I give is to Great British Comics by Paul Gravett which looks to have a lot more information on the period. I've dropped a note to a couple of other people who might have the book and/or more information and I'll probably stick the book on my letter to Santa this year. (Emperor 18:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

I have the book and it makes no mention of the invasion at all. I have a good collection of the Journal, and a number of other resources, both of Sabin's books as well as the recent Guide to World Comics and Gravett's Graphic Novels book. I think the Penguin Book of Comics runs out just before this period starts. Hmm. Sabin's Adult Comics states: "the impact of British creators on direct sales in America was not quite as dramatic from an American perspective as British fans were led to believe." Sabin takes the line that some of the poaching was done to increase market share in the UK. He writes nothing on the subject in his other book, Comics, Comix & Graphic Novels. Hiding Talk 21:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for checking - it is odd as the synopsis says "Since the 1980s, there has been a British invasion of writers and artists into American comic books, revitalizing everything from Batman to X-Men and originating uniquely British characters of their own, such as Modesty Blaise and the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen." [4] but I suppose that doesn't mean there is anthing on it. Pity. I'd be interested to hear what Sabin's numbers are. (Emperor 22:44, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

There's nothing like that on the back page. I think they might be targeting that synopsis at a US audience, perhaps? Sabin doesn't provide any figures or cite any. That said, my memory of the time would back up what he says a little. I remember Shade, Doom Patrol and Animal Man being mid market sellers, Sandman was quite a good seller. They weren't huge, but I think they were respectable for DC, although DC was in a slump at the time. But that's just my memory. I'll get round to dusting off the Journals one day. There is one Journal issue which goes big on the Invasion, I'll dig that out, and there was some book on British creators a while back that I never got round to picking up, that might have stuff in it. Hiding Talk 23:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, while a lot of them were fan favourites and got awards they didn't really sell that well (other than Watchmen). In some ways it was more their influence on the medium as well as the fact that some went on to bigger things (then again Morrison Invisibles was nearly cancelled and I suppose he is really now shiftin big numbers with Superman and beyond). (Emperor 23:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC))

Why is there no mention of Chris Claremont, who is from London, and predates all of these people with his writing o Uncanny X-Men beginning in 1976? RyokoMocha (talk) 02:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Because the British Invasion does not mean any and every writer or artist from Britain! It's a specific movement with specific writers (Moore, Gaiman, Morrison) at a specific point in time (late 80s/early 90s) at a specific place (2000 AD -> DC Comics). I've tried to get that reflected in this article. I also removed most of the info about Bolland. It's a travesty to see more info about Bolland on this article than there were on Moore. Bolland was NOT a part of the British Invasion. He was a precursor. Just because some idiots have retrospectively and anachronistically associated him with the invasion does not mean he actually started it. Bolland did not created a revolution. His work alone in the 1980s did not led anyone to talk about a British Invasion in comic books. It was only when writers like Gaiman and Morrison came along to replace Alan Moore at DC Comics that people started talking about such an invasion. This article was basically contradicting itself by saying that the invasion started proper with Alan Moore while crediting Bolland as spearheading the movement. It's one or the other and anyone can easily verify by searching the web or a library to see that Alan Moore's work on Swamp Thing is always credited as the start of the invasion. --115.135.93.190 (talk) 12:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Artists shamefully neglected

Artists were very much part of the British Invasion. Bolland and Dave Gibbons came long before Alan Moore and helped change comics with Killing Joke and Watchmen. Bolland even did a cover for Amazing Heroes in 1984 about the "European Invasion". DC Comics might never have met with Alan Moore if they hadn't already being scouting for artists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMCurran (talk • contribs) 17:26, 3 August 2020 (UTC)