Talk:British East and Southeast Asian
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Original research concerns
[edit]I've tagged this article for original research concerns due to material such as "The term has gained currency following the outbreak of COVID-19 which led to a rise in anti-Asian racial violence", where the citation given seems to be a primary source that doesn't establish that the term has "gained currency". Cordless Larry (talk) 10:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Renaming page to "East and Southeast Asians in the United Kingdom"
[edit]After consulting with other researchers specialising in this area (such as Diana Yeh), community groups and a review of the use of terms online and in relevant literature – we'd like to request a reversion of the name of this article to "East and Southeast Asians in the United Kingdom".
This is the name of the page when we created it at this editathon in 2022. This page name was chosen following this research project and discussions with researchers and community members, to reflect customary usage. It was subsequently renamed (without discussion) to "British East and Southeast Asian", which is only a part of what the page is about.
Looking at the web pages and online materials of 45 groups listed in the article, over 80% of them use the term "East and Southeast Asian" rather than "British East and Southeast Asian" (around 10%). There is an "East and Southeast Asian" heritage month in September, not a "British East and Southeast Asian" heritage month.
As reflected in the literature, "British East and Southeast Asians" (BESEAs) are a subset of "East and Southeast Asians in the United Kingdom", which includes people who may not have British citizenship or identify as British, but who are entitled to be here and deserve recognition (for discussion on this see, for example, here and here).
This is also commensurate with the naming of other related pages such as the following (these do not all refer to British East and Southeast Asians):
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kongers_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesians_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysians_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolians_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burmese_people_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipinos_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singaporeans_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thais_in_the_United_Kingdom
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people_in_the_United_Kingdom
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