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Regions with significant populations

I think the Regions with significant populations section has been miss-understood, this section is supposed to list UK towns, cities and counties with significant and large Arab populations, not countries with large British populations or whatever this list is supposed to be. If this is a list containing how many people from their respective country live in the UK, then this list should be located elswhere in the article (also, why are the 250,000 Iraqi's not mentioned?????). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.144.57 (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Improvement

This article needs some serious improvement, since some of the articles (e.g. Moroccan Britons) were deleted, which were perfectly acceptable, the 1 million British Arabs are represented by this short and lacking article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.62.126 (talk) 21:24, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 20:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arab Britons → British Arabs — This page was moved from 'British Arabs' to 'Arab Britons' on the grounds that (a) the latter is used by UK national statistics and (b) that 'British Arabs' means 'Arab people of British descent'. However, I can find no evidence for the former claim (correct me if I'm wrong) and uses of this term outside Wikipedia are very rare; in practice Arabic people in Britain seem to call themselves "British Arabs". This can be demonstrated by the National Association of British Arabs, the British Arabs Resource Council, for example. —Cop 663 (talk) 14:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Move performed (no opposition here or at WP:RM) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:18, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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British Tunisians

The number stated is 40,000, which is most likely highly incorrect, and the link in the citation does not state this, anywhere. I'm removing this subsection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.194.88 (talk) 22:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Subgroups

I am editing this, Chad, Somalia, Western Sahara? these are not memebers of the Arab league let alone being ethnically Arab this needs to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikineek89 (talk • contribs) 10:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Somalia and Mauritania are long-time members of the Arab League, and Western Sahara is a part of Morocco, which is also a part of the Arab League. Middayexpress (talk) 22:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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History

There is little mention of the history of Arabs in the British Isles, such as the article on Yemenis in the United Kingdom community going back to the 1870s. Some who also included Jewish Arabs. This section needs to be added. I understand Syrian communities have also ecisted since that time as well. Faro0485 (talk) 22:37, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. If you've got sources to support such a section, I suggest you go ahead and start it, Faro0485. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jade Thirlwall/matrilineal Arabs

Does Thirlwall "count" as British Arab because of her maternal ancestry, and do other British with (only) Arab mothers? Traditionally Arab culture reckons descent through the father only. I think this tradition is irrational and offensive, and it's slowly changing (now in much of North Africa you are considered ethnically Arab through matrilineal descent), but it's still relevant to how she is culturally perceived by other Arabs. GergisBaki (talk) 13:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@GergisBaki: this article is about UK citizens and residents, so we should use the British conventions. Our lead paragraph refers to "Arab ethnic, cultural and linguistic heritage or identity from Arab countries", and this is the test we should apply. I know little about Jade Thirlwall, but if she has two Arab grandmothers then it is likely that she has cultural heritage from Arab countries. Verbcatcher (talk) 00:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. The norm is stupid (and slowly changing) anyway, (of course your heritage and cultural comes from both mother and father). As an Arab I thought it was important to point it out just for the sake of accuracy. But your point about using British ethnic conventions (where mom and dad both count) is persuasive. GergisBaki (talk) 11:00, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Salah

He's undoubtedly the most famous Arab living in the UK, but should Salah really be listed here? I get that the first sentence mentions "residents" of the UK, but by that metric he's also a "Swiss Arab" and "Italian Arab" at different points in his life. Wallachia Wallonia (talk) 21:39, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]