Talk:Bridge Plaza, Brooklyn

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Deletion

This article was nominated for deletion on 6 January 2009. The result of the discussion was keep.

Please note that the 2009 decision to keep this article comprised of one person with a vested interest in retaining it, while all others agreeing to not delete the article did so for reasons that had nothing to do with the legitimacy of the content. They were mainly concerned about whether or not a limited-content article or stub should be deleted just because they were light on content or a stub. This seems to me to be a pretty specious threshold for legitimacy. This article should be merged into a Bridge Plaza article, or added as a stub to the Brooklyn Navy Yard (or Vinegar Hill) article. Or deleted. Dream-king (talk) 01:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs to be deleted. I WORK in Real Estate and have never heard this in my life.

This article is ridiculous. The area within the boundaries consist of 3-5 EXTREMELY small blocks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.246.238 (talk) 03:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I have never heard of RAMBO and I've heard of some pretty ridiculous stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.2.95 (talk) 05:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm for keeping the page, but the article referring to it as a "rarely used name" is a glaring "then why does this warrant an article?" Something made it significant enough to keep alive, so why the self-deprecation? --24.108.82.227 (talk) 05:39, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Joke Name

It's nice that people (particularly realtors, I suspect) would like to coin a snazzy new acronym for the area, piggybacking on the DUMBO acronym, but the actual official name for this area is Bridge Plaza. Here's an actual source (shocking, I know...wikipedia..sources? what is the world coming to?) http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/bridgeplaza/bridgeplaza1.shtml Articles like these are the sorts of things that make wikipedia a joke. Taco (talk) 06:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In case readers don't check the references, RAMBO was a joke in a contest held by the blog Curbed. This is not a real neighborhood and should be noted as such or, of course, deleted. Ando228 (talk) 03:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The RAMBO moniker has appeared in print, online, and is routinely used by residents. Anyone familiar with the area would recognize this. It's not Vinegar Hill and it's not Fort Greene, but that doesn't make it ridiculous or a joke. Martensitic (talk) 18:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The area of RAMBO is a small neighborhood on its own; I am a resident of the area. The area is being developed, new buildings and a new supermarket are on its way. We are separated from Vinegar hill by the BQE. The cost per square footage is much higher here than on the other side of the BQE. Over the past year I have heard more people call this area RAMBO, which is an indicative of popular recognition. I think that the article should stay, I agree that it needs work. However, if realtors, internet blogs, magazines, and visitors keep calling it RAMBO, then it is a matter of time until everyone does.

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Does Wikipedia employ any objective standards as to what qualifies as a neighborhood? I think there should be some general recognizability standards to weed out obscurities and real estate slogans. Just saying "anyone familiar with the area knows that residents call it RAMBO" shouldn't make the cut if that name isn't widely recognized by people outside that area. Furthermore, I think it is fair to say that there is more to a neighborhood than a name and some street boundaries. Does that name have any history? What makes these blocks different than the blocks around it? - MaxFromNY, May 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.251.182 (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's unclear as to what basis or criteria Martensitic is using to evaluate the appropriateness of this name for the area. I've lived in New York City for 37 years, and live in Fort Greene (a nearby neighorhood). No one has ever used this name to refer to this area, historically referred to as Bridge Plaza. Recent development in the past year has triggered a monetary motivation to carve out informal neighborhood names, in the hopes that repetition will convey authenticity. A NYS Assemblyman, Hakeem Jeffries, is pursuing a bill to regulate informally renaming neighborhoods, or using media to redefine traditional borders ^[1]- an act of which circulating the name 'RAMBO' as a replacement for Bridge Plaza is a prime example. Dream-king (talk) 01:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/19/sobro-and-procro-nojoke-to-assemblyman/?partner=rss&emc=rss

Local Community

The area is still called Bridge Plaza. The local community organization is Bridge Plaza Association. Even the local community garden, located at the foot of the Manhattan Bridge entrance (Brooklyn side) is called the "Bridge Plaza Community Garden." The area was never part of Vinegar Hill but rather the larger Navy Yard District, which Vinegar Hill had also been part of. The RAMBO moniker is indeed a joke or should be considered one; just because a term is regurgitated doesn't make it correct. The residents active within the community (i.e. Community Board 2, Community Garden, etc.) appropriately call the are Bridge Plaza.Bridge Plaza Association (talk) 17:01, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the case, consider moving this article to "Bridge Plaza, Brooklyn", and then updating it as you feel is necessary, including credible references. The article should nonetheless acknowledge the RAMBO name, and the "RAMBO, Brooklyn" redirect should remain. People do use the name (including residents, whether or not they happen to tend to the community garden), and people are therefore also likely to look it up on Wikipedia. Martensitic (talk) 22:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Deletion deservedly failed; moving is the answer. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:45, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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