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I would like to ask you

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I would like to ask you to not delete the Briar Rose (Band) page. The reason you are giving is not exactly accurate (Seemingly Not Notable Band) when there are plenty of bands listed on Wikipedia that would definately fall into that catagory. There is printed Briar Rose material available but I can not find internet references for them and I am still learning how to add to a Wikipedia page.

I would think that inclusion to Gary Sharp-Young's "Rockdetector" and subsequent encyclopedia would suffice as Wikipedia has constant references to Gary Sharp-Young in use with other bands listed in the Traditional Heavy Metal catagory. All material submitted to Rate Your Music has to be varified for inclusion or the artist can not have a page.

The band may not be someones genre of music but their existance and importance to Massachusetts music is warranted and inclusion to Wikipedia should be accepted.

I read here that a connection to a "Notable" person may be of help. They are working with Grammy nominated producer Chris Tsangarides in November who has worked with Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy and even Tom Jones. To work at that level, you can not be some bar band.

I hope this helps.

Linda Marie (TinkerBoop) (TinkerBoop (talk) 16:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]


I have provided you with quite a few references in print and online media. It is FAR from uncommon for a band or artist to be listed on an indie label as many major artists have established their own label in response to the ingnorance if the majors. If you had read the page for Roaar Records you would have seen that it was established with one act as it's starting point...much like that Apple Records did with that Beatles band (no i'm not comparing them,). It seem to be that because you do not know the band you assume that others in other countries do not or you just don't like the band. The references and links have been corrected and references to the band are made by people that Wikipediea has ALL OVER THE PLACE for other artists. Again they are working with a Grammy nominated producer of Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame Bands, you cant get there by not having done REAL musician work. I ask you not to remove the band.

Linda Marie (TinkerBoop)(TinkerBoop (talk) 13:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware of this band and would protest the deletion based on the criteria given. This band has released albums that have sold in Europe and internationally. They are active, recording a new album with a well known producer and have a UK street team for European promotion.

The criteria given for possible deletion seems biased toward major label bands. Arguably this could be a credible criteria in the past, but in this internet era many bands publish on their own or small labels and their music is available internationally via Itunes or via download from other outlets. This makes it hard to guage sales or interest in many bands that have large followings.

It's in the public interest for Wikipedia to provide information on bands on smaller labels. This can help the public find information that is reliable for the bands that interest them. I'm a fan of many goth metal bands in Europe that have multiple albums on Itunes and many of them have no Wikipedia reference. I've been very happy when I did see a Wikipedia page for many of them and learned more about the band. I hope this criteria isn't applied to all of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellsoul2 (talkcontribs) 14:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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