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House of Payne?

Is this a cultural reference to something besides House of Pain? Who is Payne? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.31.239 (talk) 18:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, Tyler Perry's House of Payne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.113.172 (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural References

Would it be ok to put in the article how the CBS execs fool Brian into thinking they're Jewish, and then reveal their large noses are because they're Italian. (Italians are not Jews) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.245.32.210 (talk) 15:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not really a reference to anything...., other than a jewish stereotype. CTJF83 chat 20:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found a cultural reference during the James Woods audition not listed in the article, but it is an obscure one that references back to an old banned advertisement. The video of the banned ad can be found many places on Youtube and other video sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.248.139.209 (talk) 02:35, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Movie Reference?

Which movie was the beginning with Stewie in the space ship from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.94.138.9 (talk) 20:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC) if it were star wars why does he say "the earth"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.94.138.9 (talk) 19:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's Star Wars inspired, not from Star Wars. Gage (talk) 06:07, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Xtzou (Talk) 18:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am reviewing this article. My comments are below.

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
The plot section is large relative to the article and rather hard to understand. I tried to copy edit is a bit. What does Stewie flying a spaceship and engaging a huge number of enemy forces have to do with the overall plot as a whole? Is it just to justify Stewie's going in to the basement? It would be better of the plot were streamlined to include the relevant story lines. (It does improve further down.)

"The entire sequence is CGI" - what does this mean?

You'd probably have to watch the episode, to understand that the first four or five minute of the episode was a CGI sequence, completely seperate from reality, as Stewie is imagining himself in a space fight with a steel, Peter shaped space ship. After the CGI sequence cuts, it goes to Stewie standing on the back of the couch, flying a toy spaceship around Peter's head, jabbing it in his ear repeatedly. This causes Peter to throw his bear in the basement, leading to Stewie's discovery of the script. Maybe it can be better stated in the article? Gage (talk) 18:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Article is well sourced, with no original research.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
The article remains focused on the subject, but it seem like the cultural references section is rather short and perhaps incomplete.

Actually, this episode had very, very few cultural references, based on most likely the fact that it was the writer's first episode for the entire series. To my knowledge, all the cultural references in the episode are listed. With only a minor joke or two left out. Gage (talk) 18:40, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
NPOV
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

I think this article is close to passing. I will place it on hold. Xtzou (Talk) 18:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ok, I made some more changes so that it made sense to me. Feel free to change any inaccuracies I may have introduced! Xtzou (Talk) 19:28, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Final GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
I changed a few more things, hopefully ok.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Article is well sourced, with no original research.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
The article remains focused on the subject while covering the relevant areas.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
NPOV
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Good work! Xtzou (Talk) 19:28, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Extras

Did anyone else notice that this storyline was basically identical to the TV shows Extras? There was even a character called Byron in it, which was the name of a fictional film in Extras if I remember correctly. -- Borb (talk) 15:31, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summary too long,over 600 words

Added {{Plot|date=September 2011}}. Per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Television#Plot_section, "The main purpose of plot summaries is to provide context for the rest of the information. As a rough guide, summaries for episode articles should be about 200 to 500 words. Complicated plots may take more space to present than simpler plots. For articles on the main work this section should be brief, only discussing the important plot elements for each season (though, if the article is becoming long it may be best to trim it to over-arching plots for the entire series) that steered the course of characters lives, or the course of the show. For season articles, there are a couple ways to present plot information: in a basic prose section that gives season story arcs and main plot points or a tabular format that sections off each individual episode with its own brief plot section (approximately 100–200 words for each, with upwards of 350 words for complex storylines)." Northamerica1000 (talk) 16:20, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done That wasn't so tough - 416 words now. Cheers. Doniago (talk) 16:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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