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Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2019

Can you add the following line because this wideley the case and all other qbs brees, elway, manning, etc have this in their wikis, he is in many top 10 lists.

For his many career accomplishments and records, Favre is considered as one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. 12.181.102.138 (talk) 21:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:00, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2019

Change

For the 2005 season, the Packers, despite throwing for over 3,000 yards for a record 14th consecutive time, Favre had a below average season with only 20 touchdown passes and a league-leading 29 interceptions.

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For the 2005 season, despite throwing for over 3,000 yards for a record 14th consecutive time, Favre had a below-average season with only 20 touchdown passes and a league-leading 29 interceptions. RipCodyParkey (talk) 02:27, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

 Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:50, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2020

Please change "At the time of his retirement, he was the NFL's all-time leader in passing yards, passing touchdowns and quarterback wins; all three records have since been broken by [Peyton Manning] and Tom Brady respectively." to "At the time of his retirement, he was the NFL's all-time leader in passing yards, passing touchdowns and quarterback wins; all three records have since been broken by [Drew Brees] and Tom Brady respectively."

Essentially, Drew Brees not Peyton Manning holds the passing yards and touchdowns record. No sources are required as this is public knowledge. Michaelzoghbi (talk) 16:55, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Michaelzoghbi, but Brees didn't break Favre's record. Manning did, and then Brees broke Manning's record. Perhaps Manning and Brady should simply be taken out. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done, however I took Muboshgu's recommendation and just removed the names entirely. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:41, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Welfare fraud

No mention of the $1,100,000 dollars the Brett Favre received from the Mississippi welfare fund. He has had the state of Mississippi's money for three years and knew he did nothing for the money. He claims he will pay it back but gives no timeline of when .Also no mention if he intends to pay back the three years of interest on his ill gotten gains. No wonder the poor children of Mississippi go hungry when no show Favre takes money from the state that should of gone to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.104.95.120 (talk) 21:23, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I added some of the above along with reliable sources to the article Benica11 (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Golf with Trump in midst of Covid19

Brett Favre joins Trump for a round of golf at the president’s New Jersey club On July 26 2020. Reckless endangerment? Should mention in article be warranted? Wikipietime (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

I very much think so. It is widely reported and photos of them in close proximity make significant. Wikipietime (talk) 22:31, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Personally it isn't all that significant, but a quick mention of it (few sentences) would be appropriate JackFromReedsburg (talk) 15:10, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to this article: the information that Favre owes the state of Mississippi $600,000. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

To add to article

Under the entertainment category add a cameo in the recent scott the woz video, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhbVUf3yyB0) Timestamp: 48:51. Kane739 (talk) 01:52, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: This needs an independent source mentioning this (to establish it's significant and not just FANCRUFT). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Most Games Played by Quarterback Record

Favre has been surpassed by Tom Brady, so this needs to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmeier1231 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Correction needed

This article says the Packers acquired Favre by giving the Falcons the 19th pick in 1992 draft, which the Falcons subsequently used to draft Tony Smith. This is not true. I have corrected the Tony Smith page, but I can't correct the Favre page because it's locked. Here is a full rundown with sources to explain what actually happened:

First, it is true that Tony Smith was picked in the 1992 draft with the 19th pick. All sources agree on this. But this isn't the pick Atlanta got in exchange for Brett Favre. Favre was traded to Green Bay for the 17th pick (not 19th) in the 1992 draft. All sources from the time of the trade agree upon this:

https://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/212249761.html/: "The Packers sent the second of their two first-round draft choices, the 17th pick overall obtained from Philadelphia, to Atlanta Tuesday for Favre, the Falcons' second-round selection (33rd overall) in the draft last year."

https://fs64sports.blogspot.com/2012/02/1992-falcons-trade-brett-favre-to.html ("On February 11, 1992, the Green Bay Packers traded a first round draft choice to the Atlanta Falcons to acquire QB Brett Favre. This choice, the 17th overall, was a choice Green Bay acquired from the Eagles."

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/02/11/Packers-trade-first-round-pick-for-Favre/5971697784400/ "The Green Bay Packers Tuesday traded the second of their two first-round draft picks to the Atlanta Falcons for backup quarterback Brett Favre. The Packers dealt the 17th overall pick of the draft for Favre, and retained the fifth pick."

So now the question becomes twofold: how did Atlanta lose that 17th pick, and why are people confused about it?

The answer to the first question is simple: trades. Here's a source for this: https://www.prosportstransactions.com/football/DraftTrades/Years/1992.htm

If you look to see the history of the picks in the 1992 draft in the link above, you'll see the history of the 17th and 19th picks. (Granted, you have to know how to read these sort of spreadsheets to understand it. Here's a quick tutorial: the teams listed on the far left are those who the picks originally belonged to. As you work your way right, you'll see what team the picks were traded to, when trades were made, and what the teams gave up to make the trades. The team listed farthest right is the team that ultimately used each pick. The players listed in parenthesis are those who were ultimately chosen with each associated pick, and the players on the far right are those who were ultimately chosen for that draft slot - again, chosen by the team listed farthest right.) So here's the history of 1992's 17th pick in the draft: as previously stated, it was originally Philadelphia's pick before they traded it to Green Bay. Green Bay traded it to Atlanta for Brett Favre, and Atlanta bundled it with the 120th draft pick and traded those picks to Dallas. The player who was actually drafted with the pick Atlanta got for Brett Favre was Kevin Smith (cornerback), drafted by the Dallas Cowboys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Smith_(cornerback)

As to the second question, why do some sources say Favre was traded for the 19th pick, which was subsequently used to draft Tony Smith? Well, all these sources are from after 2000, after the real facts had been forgotten. But sources from the time should trump sources from well after the fact.

If somebody can correct the article, I'd appreciate it. You can simply search for Tony Smith and find the exact point in the article that needs fixing. Thank you for your time.184.55.82.40 (talk) 00:24, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Done Ralexander4220 (talk) 23:46, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

It's not done though. It's still wrong. 184.55.82.40 (talk) 23:05, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2022

Brett Favre's page, College Career section, in paragraph 3 there is a minor discrepancy. The first sentence states that "On July 14, 1990, before the start of Favre's senior year at Southern Miss, he was involved in a nearly fatal car accident.". The seventh sentence states that "Six weeks after this incident, on September 8, Favre led Southern Miss to a comeback victory over Alabama.". So the error is regarding the correct number of weeks from July 14 to September 8; which is stated as 6 weeks in the article. However it's actually 8 weeks from July 14th to September 8th. I've copied the paragraph to be edited below.

On July 14, 1990, before the start of Favre's senior year at Southern Miss, he was involved in a nearly fatal car accident. When going around a bend a few tenths of a mile from his parents' house, Favre lost control of his car, which flipped three times and came to rest against a tree. It was only after one of his brothers smashed a car window with a golf club that Favre could be evacuated and rushed to the hospital. In the ambulance, his mother was sitting with him. "All I kept asking [her] was 'Will I be able to play football again?'" Favre recalled later. Doctors would later remove 30 inches (76 cm) of Favre's small intestine. Six weeks after this incident, on September 8, Favre led Southern Miss to a comeback victory over Alabama. Alabama coach Gene Stallings said, "You can call it a miracle or a legend or whatever you want to. I just know that on that day, Brett Favre was larger than life."[10]

I thank you in advance for making this small correction. 2600:1008:B126:208C:B57E:50B9:FFDD:2D66 (talk) 23:38, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done casualdejekyll 23:46, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Favre's Role in Mississippi Dept. of Health Scandal

Maybe I missed it, but I see no mention of Favre's role in the Mississippi Dept. of Health scandal? Specifically, that he: 1) accepted funds for services he never rendered, 2) that he was required to repay those funds to the State of Mississippi, and 3) that he has been named in a lawsuit that seeks to obtain interest payments on the misappropriated funds.

Associated Press May 9, 2022

JACKSON, Miss. -- The Mississippi Department of Human Services on Monday sued retired NFL quarterback Brett Favre, three former pro wrestlers and several other people and businesses to try to recover millions of misspent welfare dollars that were intended to help some of the poorest people in the United States.

The lawsuit says the defendants "squandered" more than $20 million in money from the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families anti-poverty program.

The suit was filed less than two weeks after a mother and son who ran a nonprofit group and an education company in Mississippi pleaded guilty to state criminal charges tied to the misspending. Nancy New, 69, and Zachary New, 39, agreed to testify against others in what State Auditor Shad White has called Mississippi's largest public corruption case in the past two decades.

White last year demanded repayment of $77 million of misspent welfare funds from several people and groups, including $1.1 million paid to Favre, who lives in Mississippi. Favre has not been charged with any criminal wrongdoing.

White said Favre was paid for speeches but did not show up. Favre has repaid the money, but White said in October that Favre still owed $228,000 in interest. In a Facebook post when he repaid the first $500,000, Favre said he did not know the money he received came from welfare funds. He also said his charity had provided millions of dollars to poor children in Mississippi and Wisconsin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.3.251 (talk) 01:13, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

I see that this fraud issue now has a paragraph, but I am surprised it is not mentioned in the page header. This major (and developing) story seems a major stain on his legacy and therefore deserving a couple of sentences in the header. 147.94.135.30 (talk) 16:04, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Beware of WP:RECENTISM and WP:RGW. We are an encyclopedia, not a newspaper, and we take a long-term approach to subjects. The story about Favre and Mississippi welfare funds is WP:BREAKING news, and while it is important enough to include in the article, the situation is unresolved, so we do not know the full level of its eventual impact yet. Caution is key for us. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:36, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

In the past few days, it seems the story has gotten big enough that it warrants a mention in the top section, so I have just boldly added it. Some sources indicating how big the story has gotten are NY Times' "Brett Favre’s Most Memorable Stat May Be $8 Million Meant for the Poor" and the news that SiriusXM has dropped his radio show. –IagoQnsi (talk) 05:49, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

WELFARE FRAUD

This should be in Wikipedia. He voluntarily paid back SOME OF THE MONEY 96.239.122.240 (talk) 00:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

What are you talking about? – PeeJay 18:07, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

He paid back $1.1 million. He took another $7.1 million from welfare in Mississippi. He made $150 million in the NFL

Professional Career: Green Bay Packers (1992–2007) starting streak

Needs revision.

It states that Favre became the starter in 92 season following the Tampa game (2nd game of season). Yet Majkowski had the start the following week against Cincinnati where he was then injured and replaced by Favre. So the starting streak started at the 4th game of the season. Hence why Favre is listed as having started 13 games that year according to Pro Football stats. It also listed Majkowski as starting that Cincinnati game as well.

"The Buccaneers were leading 17–0 at halftime, when head coach Mike Holmgren benched starting quarterback Don Majkowski and Favre played the second half. ~Favre would keep the starting job for the rest of his tenure in Green Bay.~

...The following week, Majkowski injured a ligament in his ankle against the Cincinnati Bengals, an injury severe enough that he would be out for four weeks. Favre replaced Majkowski for the remainder of the game."

Majkowski's own wiki page states

"On a play on September 20 against the Cincinnati Bengals, Majkowski tore a ligament in his ankle in the first quarter. He was replaced by 22-year-old Brett Favre, who completed the game, a one-point victory, and went on to start every Packers game through 2007." 2600:1700:A620:8BE0:1CA8:34BF:C3A1:E83F (talk) 05:43, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Anti-Semitic Cameo

In 2018 Farve was tricked into recording an anti Semitic video on the app Cameo. Should this be put under controversies? It seems to have gotten a lot of press from reliable sources. [1][2][3] Foward123456 (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Why? What does it say about Favre? Anyone on Cameo could have been duped into reading that language. Did this get any lasting coverage beyond Dec 2018? – Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

It did not receive any lasting coverage, but it seemed to be considered major news from reliable sources, USA Today, NYT, Washington post, sports illustrated. Despite it clearly being an accident, it seems notable. Just wanted to get some feedback on if this should be added to his wiki page. Your thoughts? Foward123456 (talk) 19:31, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

This should not be included on his page. That it was covered by multiple sources is not relevant. It was a one-day-and-done story, and does not contribute to our understanding of who Favre is. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:40, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 December 2023

Add to NFL Records in header - Most Career Interceptions Thrown, 336 2600:6C44:6F00:14F:E9C0:8AE7:63C6:39E1 (talk) 17:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Shadow311 (talk) 17:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)