Talk:Brendan Filone

Cleanup

The tone of this article does not conform to Wikipedia's standards. Examples: "the Tony Soprano crew" "smart-mouth" "egotistical loose cannon" "may have" "Unfortunately" "a little steep" "Moe Greene Special"

Additionally, there are no sources for the opinions and claims offered, and two pictures in an article this small pushes the limits of fair use licensing. The tag should not be removed by the author of the article. Kafziel 15:35, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

• I've been looking at other Soprano articles, pics like these are everywhere. I would delete them, but I don't want to accidentally delete something that is meant to stay. In defense of the people who put them up, I do think it's a bit vague as to what is an acceptable photo and what is not. Though I suppose when a dozen people tell you to stop doing something, it may not be the right thing to do. --Orion Minor 15:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

WHAT?! that's the best possible description. the only part in the whole article which is "added" from my perspective and on my terms is "People who don't play by the rules don't last very long"...that's it. Everything else was fine. If you go back to all the reverts, you'll see that one line is the reason why everyone kept tagging it. - Zarbon

See? This is what I'm talking about. Your lack of objectivity keeps this article (and others) looking amateurish and (by your own admission) like it was written by a fanboy. The tag stays. Kafziel 16:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

No. You're being amateurish. If you were orderly and constructive, you would find a quick means of getting rid of tags. What the hell is the point of keeping tags when most of the article is fine. The one sentence that was causing the tag has already been removed for objectivity reasons. There's seriously nothing else that should be taken out, holding your own perspective of what's needed and what isn't. - Zarbon

The examples I gave you encompass a lot more than one sentence, and this isn't my perspective. I'm trying to help you here. I'm not the one who put the tag on in the first place. I'm not the one who has now tagged List of The Shield characters (which was fine until I merged your content into it). Other people are telling you you're wrong, not just me. Kafziel 16:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

i understand that. but if you're really trying to help me, then you'll help fix the article so that the tags won't be there anymore. - Zarbon

You don't let me. When I've tried to do that on other articles, you try to start edit wars by reverting me. Even the smallest details or choice of words is "extremely important" to the article, in your opinion, so you don't let anyone change anything you write. Kafziel 16:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Your exact words were: "It doesn't bother me none as long as you enjoy yourself constantly resetting what i write." Kafziel 16:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I thought I apologized for that...? Anyways, if you can find a way in which the tags are removed...I would be greatly thankful. But I do know for a fact that for example, "Moe Greene Special" is stated on the show and also in his character profile on the site back in 2000. - Zarbon

No, you didn't apologize for that. And you still haven't.

They called it a Moe Green special because that's how Moe Green was killed in The Godfather. That doesn't mean it's an official Mafia term, or that it belongs in the article. Kafziel 16:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok. then sorry for that. How else would you like me to apologize. Look, I'm not trying to keep any grudges. As you can see, my only intention is to showcase the portrayal of my most favorite guy in a well-established manner. Please, somehow help out if you say you can. - Zarbon

I can help rewrite this (and The Shield articles) but you need to accept my changes, no matter how drastic you think they are. I'm not going to waste my time just to be reverted and accused of somehow being biased. I'm not one of those editors who thinks no fictional characters should be on Wikipedia, but I do believe they need to be treated carefully and with as little detail as is necessary to establish their notability within the work. If you are willing to accept that, I'm willing to rewrite the content to try to get the tags removed. Kafziel 16:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

past present fiction

Thank you, Kaz. I don't do much fiction at all. Are even dead fictional characters refered to in the present? I defer to you. Hpuppet - «Talk» 17:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay...everything seems fine, cept for one very major detail. Can you please add the "eye". it is of Major relevance to his character. in the end, "clean through the eye" or "through the eye" or "in his eye" or somehow or in some manner, the form of demise should be noted. - Zarbon

How is that "of major relevance to his character"? In what way does that develop his persona? His character is dead. The actions his character took in "life" are of relevance, and the fact that he was killed on orders from Junior, and maybe even the fact that he was killed in his bathtub. But you need to be able to let some of the smaller details go. Kafziel 17:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I did. The only detail that I want kept is the eye. that's it. nothing else. - Zarbon

Why is it important? What happens in later episodes that might have been different if, for example, he had been shot in the forehead? Kafziel 17:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Then he would not have been mentioned as receiving a "Moe Greene Special", which is a part of popular death scenes. The reference would further lead to Moe Greene and chained to Bugsy Siegel. It's relevant, it's not just my opinion. The hbo site found it relevant so I'm just going by the official site. - Zarbon

So someone later refers to it that way. How does that influence the plot? Of course the HBO site found it relevant; it's their show. They're allowed to have all kinds of irrelevant fan information. Wikipedia isn't the same. Kafziel 17:24, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Seriously though, would it matter to you personally if the eye word was left there? Is it that much to quarrel over? Besides, you'd be making me plenty satisfied. (Dezerian with the foot cutting and the 2 shots to the chest - reference) - Zarbon

The phrasing, as Hpuppet fixed it, is better now, but the sentence seems pretty awkward with so much detail crammed into it (where he was, where he was shot, who shot him, and who else was there, all in the same sentence). It's acceptable enough, though. Kafziel 17:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! you don't know how much this means to me. Thank you so much. - Zarbon

Skill

I removed the bit about his real skill being truck hijacking. First of all, it implies that being a crystal meth addict is a skill, and secondly, he wasn't exactly skilled at hijacking - he failed to do his homework, robbed the wrong truck, botched the second attempt, and was killed for it. The point of his character was really that he didn't have any skills; his character was written to show what can happen to inexperienced criminals, particularly wannabe wise-guys, when they lose their focus to drugs and are desperate for money and respect. It's a similar theme from Goodfellas, and was repeated later with Christopher himself. Kafziel 17:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

and case in point, the imperfect-ness is what makes me love him so very much. i can relate to him. also, he's not very young. he's age 34 at the time of the jacking. On another note, the reason why he jacks the second truck is not to pay Junior, but to get more. He simply didn't want to comply to orders, it had nothing to do with paying Junior the restitution. That was already paid. The jack was his plan simply to make extra cash. - Zarbon

Merge

Being in only 3 episodes (4 if you include a picture in The Legend of Tennessee Moltisanti) I don't think he is a significant enough character to warrant his own article. Just look at guys like Murmmer, Gigi, and Ally Boy, who don't have articles, but are more significant and appear in more episodes. --Ted87 (talk) 07:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• Strong Keep - I am highly against the merger. This character plays more of a role in the first season than any of the characters you stated. Furthermore, he is one of the only two memorable characters killed off in the first season, the other being Mikey. The amount of information about the character after his demise is enough to sustain a page of worthwhile material. This has been discussed furthermore in prior years. Since the show has ended, it is more than a fact that this character is a major character in the first season. As the main deaths of each season have their own page, it is only logical that the two important deaths of the first season maintain their pages (Brendan and Mikey). The fact that they are mentioned furthermore, more than any other characters in the series run AFTER their death, makes them highly important. There are others that should be removed from the list, however, such as Albie Cianflone. This character did absolutely nothing to contribute to the series storyline run. No plot revolves around Ally Boy at all, Gigi does absolutely nothing but shoot Philly then die on the toilet, two non-intertwined plots, and Murmer does nothing but talk about Vito being gay. The fact that Brendan is season 1's first important character killed off is enough to attribute a page to him. Others that are equally in this stature are Mikey (season 1), Pussy (season 2), Richie (season 2), Jackie Jr. (season 3), Ralphie (season 4), Tony B. (season 5), Vito (season 6), Bobby (season 6), and Chris (season 6). The characters you mentioned are "revolving door" characters, so to speak, who come and go and none of the plotline revolves around them. Again, I am highly against this merger, highly. Zarbon (talk) 13:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Wait a Tick...

Just sort of rediscovered my Wikipedia profile after a year. Why is this page back? What discussion was had to revert it from the redirect? There shouldn't actually need to be a discussion to merge it if there was no reason to overrule the previous decision. I recall there being a *very* long argument over this, with the consesus being reached that it was to be merged. And I also remember a user with a tendancy to insist on getting his way on these things.--Orion Minor (talk) 12:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Most of the pages that were merged, including even lesser characters were given pages after the show's conclusion. Some of these: Albie Cianflone, Mikey Palmice, Butch DeConcini, etc. The two most important characters who were killed in the first season were Brendan and Mikey. And a merge was revisited for all of the pages twice...and both times the result and consensus was KEEP. The initial and constant proposition for deletion has become annoying already. Zarbon (talk) 04:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

no Zarbond. make this page deleted right now please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.9.58 (talk) 18:38, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Brendan Filone

Good day buds! i will have this artikle make deleted. ha ha ha ha! Zarbond you better get back to thee. I sent u an e-mail from my username (yes i forgot password). toodles! --166.137.6.25 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC).

Speedy keep

This article was nominated for deletion and reached a speedy keep. This message is to PdThor in regards to keeping the article, as it is better to bring up that the article be kept prior to the removal of the deletion tag. - Zarbon (talk) 01:23, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Naming?

How do you pronounce the name "Filone"? -- Eckels (talk) 16:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

It is pronounced Fa-lo-un... but Uncle Junior sometimes calls him Fih-loni, stressing the "e" in the end, although it should be silent. - Zarbon (talk) 02:31, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Bring it back!

Hello boys and girls. I AM thinking about being wp:bold and bringing back artikle. Serious? You can bet your bottom dollar i am. The show has never been the same since he died. We've all heard it b4! How do i sign my name with four ~~~~?? Zarbond, i mean, Zarbon, accept my friend request on facebook.