Talk:Brazilian football league system

Pyramids

Hey, thanks for creating this! Now I have some questions: are the two state levels under "national pyramid" and the two levels under "regional pyramid" referring to the same competitions? If so, maybe you could do away with the table under "regional pyramid" and just explain it using the Campeonato Paulista. Also I assume that there is no difference between a regional pyramid and a state pyramid? (If there is, please clarify.) So on the one hand, you have two levels for the regional pyramid opposed to four levels for the state pyramid. I take it that while the national pyramid is limited to four levels, the state pyramids are more multi-layered (or are they restricted to four levels also?). Thanks. Crix 03:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Crix.

1. Yes, the two state levels under "national pyramid" and the two levels under "regional pyramid" refer to the same competition. I will change the tables.
2. The regional and the state pyramid are the same thing.

The national pyramid is limited to the Série A, Série B, Série C, and by the state championships. The state championships are not officially hierarchically behind the Série C, but they are used by CBF as a way to promote clubs to that competition. The state championships can have more than three levels. The number of levels is defined by each one of the state's football federation. For example: there are four levels in São Paulo state, but some states, like Minas Gerais, have three levels, and some others, like Ceará, have just two levels.

Regards, Carioca 04:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Varies from state to state, in greater states ther are three divisions very well regulated. In some staes like Amazonas, the divisions are somewhat bizarre and obscure. The informal third division of Amazonas are disputed with teams mixed with men and woman playing together. In Espirito Santo the informal third division runs by backyards fields. The football in Brazil is not popular in the whole country as many believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.69.148 (talk) 00:30, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Those informal competitions are not official, as they are not organized by CBF or by the state federations. Therefore they do not belong to the Brazilian football league system. However those informal competitions can be listed in a page like Amateur football in Brazil. Regards, --Carioca (talk) 18:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Campeonato Carioca, relegation and the big four

Hi! I removed the information that since 2006 the big four clubs in Rio de Janeiro State Championsip cannot be relegated, because I checked the 2006 and the 2008 rules of the competition, and according to those official competition texts any club can be relegated. Anyway, thanks for improving the article, Jggouvea. --Carioca (talk) 04:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Query

If the state leagues run from January to May and then the national leagues run from May to December, what happens between May and December to those clubs who play in the state leagues but don't play in the national leagues? Do they just close down for eight months? The article doesn't make this clear....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:59, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

They play in state cups, such as Copa Paulista de Futebol or Copa Santa Catarina. Most states have state cups. Hope that helps. --Carioca (talk) 19:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Perfect, cheers! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I expanded the article to include an explanation about the state cups. --Carioca (talk) 20:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)