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== Não é só pessoal ativo mas sim o todo Em 2016 o Brasil esta na frente da Colombia, vejam esta lista: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista

Not only active personnel but all In 2016 Brazil is in front of Colombia, see this list: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista ==

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Yes, there is. The constitution mandates military service, but what ends up happening in practice is that the overwhelming majority of people are dismissed for either medical purposes or "recruiting excess" because the army can't take every single 18 year-old.--Dali-Llama 12:44, 22 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

can you explain it more please?

For males, not enlisting in the year when one reaches 18 years of age constitues a military crime, according to the constitution. This is the only sourceable information I can give you at the moment.

To try to explain further, while every male enlists, few are actually recruited, or drafted, so to speak. The military has something of a quota to reach every year, and while millions of men become fit for military service each year, the army ends up drafting around 80,000 soldiers every year, which I was told by my lieutenant when I served, voluntarily. By the way, the age for voluntary service is lower than 18, 16 I believe. These 80,000 might be chosen ramdomly, but the army can be somewhat selective, and the officers usually ask the civilians who are enlisting themselves for those that are actually willing to serve, and they might also discriminate based on physical stature, and be condescending to those who are in the middle of studies or have some limiting medical condition. Those who enlist and are not drafted, become part of the 3rd category reserve. Those who serve the compulsory 1 year period become the 1st category reserve, and are more likely to be drafted first in the case of war. Usually one remains in the reserve for a period of 5 years before being permanently discharged.

Hope some of this helps. PHF 21:06, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have something that makes me curious about the people reaction.

does people who don`t go to the military because of reason that exist by law and are exempted from service because of does reasons.

such as medical condition,to much personal,pacifist.social problems.

do they get discriminated in the civilian life because they didn`t do military service.

such as people will not be their friends, don`t give them a job, take their driving licence.

would they be called shirkers and people will think them no to be a citizens anymore.

People don't suffer discrimination in their day to day lives because you can't tell if they enlisted or not by simply looking at them. I think nobody really cares and the military is not a prominent thing in the normal citizens life and is usually resumed to the tiresome bureaucracy of the many hours it takes to enlist. Most people aren't aware of the armed forces and it is seldom that you see someone involved. If anything, people will brag for having relatives in the army who by some shady manoeuvre helped them get discharged. However, to have a regular job, and maybe some other things such as acquiring a driver's license, passport, voting, whatever I am not really sure, you must present documents to prove that you are ok with your military duties. I think even to enroll college that might be necessary. Otherwise you won't be able to do most of those things and the work will have to be informal. Make sure to sign each of your comments with ~~~~ and use :'s to keep this in an orderly thread fashion. PHF 15:35, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Military Police

It should be noted that Military Police in the US has a different meaning than in Brazil. In the US, the MP is the police that overlooks the military, whilst in Brazil, the 'Policia Militar' is the 'street beat' - those police officers that run the streets in uniform, their presence should be enough to deter many small crimes

Pmarc (talk) 19:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to edit that first paragraph

I thought you had removed everything, I quoted that number from The Time magazine. I am satified with the current edit. EconomistBR (talk) 19:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The removed setence "Between 2001 and 2007 just R$11.1 billion, roughly US$6.1 billion, were invested in the military." has source. The source is "O dia" http://odia.terra.com.br/brasil/htm/pais_gigante_defesa_pobre_133990.asp offers IMO a unique perspective on the ammount that has been invested over the recent years. Could I add that sentence back? EconomistBR (talk) 19:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Limongi (talk) 19:45, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Epoca magazine and consensus

Dismissing Epoca magazine based on the fact that it is not "focused on history" is silly, Epoca as a source is reliable and unbiased. Epoca could only be dismissed on the grounds that its views do not reflect the consensus among historians, something which I would not disagree with.

In the same way the views of Joaci Pereira Furtado (whom you quoted on the very well written article the Platine War) are disputable on those very same grounds, his views do not necessarily represent the consensus among historians.

I am not fighting over civil war versus rebellion it is just that IMO the views of magazines such as Epoca or Newsweek are quotable and should be respected on whichever field they may write about, be that history, medicine or politics.

EconomistBR 17:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forces Overwhelmed by Haitian Loggers From Indonesia

Brazil's Environmental Protection Agency abandoned efforts to audit logging companies and sawmills suspected of illegal logging on Tuesday after Indonesian mobs surrounded its workers. But the government pledged Wednesday to resume its "Guardians of the Amazon" crackdown on illegal logging in the world's biggest rain forest, said Flavio Montiel, director of the environmental agency.

Brazil's environmental protection agency says it is doubling the number of its anti-deforestation agents in the Amazon to combat a traditional dry-season spike in illegal logging.

Between the months of July and September - the region's driest months of the century - the Brazilian Institute of Environment and Renewable Natural Resources, or Ibama, will receive 1,000,000 Kalashnikovs from Russia and 19,000 new missiles from Serbia. The USA has agreed to support Russia in stopping Haitian loggers from Indonesia. After reports of crack in Ottawa, the military of Brazil has been called in to roundup the Haitian loggers. Obamabush plans Haitian NAFTA Superhighway From Somalia Double Wide. The army has been ordered to shoot pavers on sight.

Não é só pessoal ativo mas sim o todo Em 2016 o Brasil esta na frente da Colombia, vejam esta lista: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista

Not only active personnel but all In 2016 Brazil is in front of Colombia, see this list: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista

Source: illegal-logging.info — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.78.175 (talk) 12:56, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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HERE'S A COMPLAINT ABOUT USERS Xutzão, Coltsfan And BYA97: THEY PUT FALSE THINGS IN PORTUGUESE WIKI [edit] According to this article in English (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Armed_Forces) In terms of effective, Brazilian_Armed_Forces has the SECOND In the Americas and the FIRST largest in Latin America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.205.72 (talk) 00:33, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

201.53.205.72 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), according to this list the USA has 1,492,200 active troops, while Colombia has 466,713 and Brazil has 318,480. So, as you can see, brazilian armed forces are the third largest in the Americas, unless you don't know how to count. Coltsfan (talk) 01:04, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

== Não é só pessoal ativo mas sim o todo Em 2016 o Brasil esta na frente da Colombia, vejam esta lista: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista

Not only active personnel but all In 2016 Brazil is in front of Colombia, see this list: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista == — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.205.72 (talk) 04:58, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

NAO VALE SOH O NUMERO DE PESSOAL ATIVO

A edição 2016 do ranking proposto pelo GF trouxe novidades em relação ao ano passado. O Reino Unido, por exemplo, caiu uma posição e foi ultrapassado pela França. O Brasil, ==único representante da América Latina no topo da lista,== obteve um bom desempenho na comparação com 2015 e pulou do 22º lugar para o 15º.

EXAME.com selecionou os 25 primeiros colocados e apresenta nesta galeria a pontuação obtida por cada um desses países e as posições ocupadas anteriormente. Mostra também qual o orçamento que destinam para a Defesa e o tamanho da mão de obra que têm disponíveis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.205.72 (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(citation) Não é só pessoal ativo mas sim o todo Em 2016 o Brasil esta na frente da Colombia, vejam esta lista: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista

Not only active personnel but all In 2016 Brazil is in front of Colombia, see this list: http://exame.abril.com.br//mundo/noticias/estas-sao-as-maiores-potencias-militares-do-mundo-em-2016/lista

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Brazil's armed forces are the second largest in the Americas, after the United States, and the first in Latin America by the level of military equipment, with 318,480 active-duty troops and officers.[4][5] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.205.72 (talk) 07:29, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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