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A fact from Brandiose appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 27 August 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Brandiose's design work for the Rocket City Trash Pandas helped the team sell $4 million in merchandise before it played its first game?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 21:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Brandiose's design work for the Rocket City Trash Pandas led to the team selling $4 million in merchandise before it played its first game?

Source: www.al.com/news/2021/05/whats-in-a-name-for-the-trash-pandas-4-million-in-merchandise-sales-before-first-game.html, www.nytimes.com/2021/08/10/sports/baseball/brandiose-trash-pandas.html

Reviewed:

Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Kimikel (talk) 15:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I think I'll review this, but I'll have to request a second opinion as this will be my first DYK review. GoldRomean (talk) 01:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - The source provided says that the $4 million in sales is based on the team name, not Brandiose's design.
Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: My first DYK review and I'm not sure about the hook, so requesting another reviewer. Thank you. GoldRomean (talk) 02:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the original source, I added another (the NYT link) that directly attributes the merchandise sales to Brandiose's rebrand. Kimikel (talk) 12:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Kimikel:: Is Brandiose responsible for the name change/rebrand? If so, perhaps you could remove "design" from the hook, maybe that would work better?
  - @GoldRomean: The name itself was chosen by a fan poll. Brandiose was responsible for the design of all the branding. Based on that, if there's a better way to phrase that part of the hook, I'd have no problems with it. Kimikel (talk)
    - @Kimikel: What about "... that Brandiose's design work for the Rocket City Trash Pandas helped the team sell $4 million in merchandise before it played its first game?" But I'm still hesitant... I'll leave for more experienced DYK people. GoldRomean (talk) 00:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - Yeah, I agree. Proposing:

ALT1: ... that Brandiose's design work for the Rocket City Trash Pandas helped the team sell $4 million in merchandise before it played its first game?

Kimikel (talk) 00:09, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GoldRomean: Is the above ALT approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 01:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: @Kimikel: Apologies, I wrote a reply, probably forgot to publish it, and forgot about this till now. I think there needs to be better sourcing for the alt, like, a source that more directly backs up the hook. I want a second opinion anyway, but that's just my two cents. Sorry again :D. GoldRomean (talk) 22:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kimikel: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] [2]: both directly attribute success of rebrand to Brandiose. [3][4]: mention $4 million sales before first game. Feel like this should be sufficient - Kimikel (talk) 22:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GoldRomean: Does the above satisfy your concerns, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 04:56, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: GoldRomean hasn't edited since the 8th and hasn't been responsive in a while. Maybe a different editor needs to take a look here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Narutolovehinata is correct and I’m unable to help too much. GoldRomean (talk) 03:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New reviewer needed to recheck what's been reviewed and the sourcing, and give final approval or request additional work. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If I'm reading the source correctly, then the $4,000,000 is attributed to the team's nickname, which it attributes to Brandiose. I think this counts as design work, so passing.--Laun chba ller 11:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]