Talk:Brady Hoke/Archive 1

Archive 1

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end of sdsu has "ore of 27-24/". remove "/", plz

Edit request from Oldenglishd51, 11 January 2011

Brady Hoke is fat {{edit semi-protected}} change his current coaching position from sandiego state university to The university of michigan.

Oldenglishd51 (talk) 18:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 19:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

http://www.mgoblue.com/index-main.html Right on the University's front page. Reliable enough? ```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.168.192.219 (talk) 21:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

WXYZ reports the announcement to be made by the University of Michigan tomorrow. Given that media reports regarding the previous coach, Rich Rodriguez, had to be rescinded, Wikipedia should not report it as an official announcement until the press conference is held. MMetro (talk) 04:32, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 65.203.93.8, 12 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} The article states Brady Hoke was Michigan's 3rd choice. This appears to be an opinionated viewpoint of the writer and directly contradicts a statement from Dave Brandon that neither Les Miles nor Jim Harbaugh were ever offered the job. So regardless of the public perception, the stated facts -while possible a case of spin doctoring by UM- do not support the claim made in the article.

65.203.93.8 (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Done You are correct--that sentence was directly and unambiguously contradicted by the attached reference. I left the reference in, as it can still go with the previous sentence. If anyone else has a reliable source that states that the team/management considered Hoke a third choice, we can add it as an opposing theory (Something like "Initial reports indicated that David Brandon was consider Person X or Y,(+ref), but Brandon was later quoted as saying that Hoke was always the firs choice(+current ref 21)." Qwyrxian (talk) 00:15, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

"Hoke was clearly not the university’s first choice, no matter how many times Athletic Director Dave Brandon insisted he had not offered the job to Harbaugh or Miles." NYTimes "This is hardly the first time a major football program had to settle for its third- (or possibly fourth- or fifth-) choice" SI.com

I don't think anyone is stupid enough to believe Harbaugh was not Michigan's #1 guy. And Miles was obviously #2, since they didn't offered Hoke until Miles decided not to leave LSU. This nothing bad, but simply a notable part of Michigan's hiring process. Just like Pete Carroll's article rightfully says that he wasn't USC's first choice in 2000, but in fact #4. —bender235 (talk) 10:47, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

You know what? I was in the middle of editing the article, basically to say that even though Brandon claims Hoke was the only offer, sportwriters have said that others were preferred" with all of the citations, I realized that none of that really belongs in the article anyway. First of all, WP:BLP says our standards have to be really high for BLP sources; second of all, it doesn't really matter either way to Hoke's story if he was the first, second, or tenth pick. Either way, the fact is he is now the head coach for Michigan, which the article accurately reflects. So my opinion is none of this "controversy" matters enough to include in the article. Do others agree? Qwyrxian (talk) 11:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

It is definitely noteworthy. Not just in Hoke's and Carroll's case, but in every coach's case. The article Charlie Weis also states he was only offered after Notre Dame's first choice, Urban Meyer, declined. Gene Chizik's article points out the turmoil his hire caused initially, with a number of people lobbying for Turner Gill instead. I think, in retrospect it is interesting to know whether a coach was a programm's first choice, or not. And by the way, since this is a topic that concerns every coach's article, we might as well move it to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football. That is, in case you want to discuss this from a general point of view, not just in Hoke's case. —bender235 (talk) 17:49, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was speaking generally; for example, in an article about a CEO, I don't think we would mention other people who might have gotten the job instead of that person. But maybe in the domain of football this information makes more sense--that's definitely far out of my field of knowledge (as in, I don't believe I've ever watched a college football game in my life). So I think raising the issue at the Wikiproject is a good idea. They may not be able to give a general answer, but they should at least be able to provide advice in this case. Since this seems to be a matter or editorial discretion, I'll certainly abide by a clear consensus from the Wikiproject. Let me know when you open that discussion, as I'd like to follow it (and maybe participate). Qwyrxian (talk) 21:57, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Started a discussion there. Please leave a comment. —bender235 (talk) 12:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 December 2014

Hoke was fired as Michigan's head football coach on 12/2/2014. This comes after a very disappointing season, including an embarrassing shut out loss to Notre Dame. One of the most storied rivalries in college football, The Michigan Notre Dame series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan%E2%80%93Notre_Dame_football_rivalry) has been going on since 1887, when Michigan players taught Notre Dame players to play the game of football. Michigan had never been shut out since 1887, but for the first time, failed to score a single point in the 2014 game, under the coaching of Hoke. This was possibly the last game in the rivalry, as due to conference changes, the series has been suspended indefinitely.

67.111.45.100 (talk) 20:22, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

 Not done: you need to provide a source for the information. G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 23:56, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2015

The Buckeyes won in 2006, not Michigan. 98.30.100.126 (talk) 02:28, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Searching through the article for 2006, I see no mentions of Michigan defeating Ohio that year. There's a mention of them defeating Ohio in 2011, making the first 10 win season since 2006, but that's not what your request is about. Cannolis (talk) 00:36, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Update Brady Hoke photo

Can we update Brady jokes photo to an Oregon Brady Hoke? I'm tired of seeing him in Michigan garb OregonDuck1876 (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Coaching Record—Michigan

Could you fix the 2014 ranking of Brady Hoke coaching Michigan from T-4th(East) to 5th(East)? Because in season records for Michigan football, it says 5th(East). Thank You.

Edit request - Sugar Bowl Year correction

Can someone update his "champions" section to reflect the proper Sugar Bowl that he coached? The 2011 Sugar Bowl was between Ohio State and Arkansas, and he won the 2012 Sugar Bowl between Michigan and Virginia Tech.

 Done Thank you for bringing that to our attention. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2020 (UTC)