Talk:Bowne Park

A fact from Bowne Park appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 February 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that during a renovation of New York City's Bowne Park, some fish from its pond ended up in refrigerators of nearby homes?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Bowne Park

~~... that during a renovation of New York City's Bowne Park (pictured), some fish from its pond were stored in refrigerators of nearby homes?~~ Source: NY Times 1973
- ALT1:... that Bowne Park (pictured) was created after New York City mayor Walter Bowne's summer house burned down? Source: NYC Parks

Reviewed: William J. Keep

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 02:17, 17 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Doing... -Nizil (talk) 05:32, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: New, long enough, neutral, cited, no copyvio detected, both hooks are interesting and less than 200, QPQ done. Thanks for creating it and DYK. The first hook gives impression that fishes from pond were stored in refrigerator for some later purpose but I understand from the reference that they were not stored for some later purpose but captured by locals for consumption. That hook is interesting but misleading IMO. From article: During this restoration, some of Bowne Pond's fish were relocated in Flushing Meadows–Corona Park, while others were stored in refrigerators at nearby homes. gives impression that they were stored by officials for some use. I suggest to use "ended up" instead of "stored". What do you say? Regards,-Nizil (talk) 06:10, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizil Shah: Thanks for the review. However, they were not captured for consumption, but were actually temporarily stored in the fridges until the pond could be cleaned, then put back in the pond. epicgenius (talk) 13:46, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizil Shah: Actually looking at the source again, I guess we can go with your hook. I misread the source. epicgenius (talk) 15:12, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius:, can you propose reworded ALT0 hook? Please do corrections in article accordingly as well. -Nizil (talk) 04:58, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizil Shah: I already fixed the article. How about this:
- ALT2 ... that during a renovation of New York City's Bowne Park (pictured), some fish from its pond were stored in refrigerators of nearby homes? epicgenius (talk) 14:07, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius:, Well ALT2 is not different from ALT0 (original hook). I would suggest ended up instead of stored because above mentioned issue. -Nizil (talk) 07:30, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have changed "stored" with "moved to" in the article which also not true. They were not stored/moved to refrigerator of nearby homes but they "ended up" (captured by people living nearby for consumption) in refrigerators of nearby homes. Stored/moved makes impression that they were legally stored/moved for later reintroduction in the lake. The reference clearly tells that people did that because of high meat prices. From ref: Mayor said:... “I understand that some of you have some of these fish for dinner. In view of what's happening to meat prices, we'll understand that.” Current text is misleading IMO. -Nizil (talk) 07:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizil Shah: OK. Why not going with this:

ALT3 ... that during a renovation of New York City's Bowne Park (pictured), some fish from its pond ended up in refrigerators of nearby homes?

I really don't see the problem in "moved"/"stored to", as this is a minor nuance. epicgenius (talk) 12:55, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Epicgenius: Thanks for rewording the hook. I found ALT0 misleading so told you but now ALT3 seems OK. Thank you very much for considering my point and also for changes in the article as well. Image is free, used in article and would look OK at 100x100. Thank you for contributing to DYK. Approving DYK and ALT3 should go to Prep in IMO. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 05:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]