Talk:Boroughs of Mexico City

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Pagename change

Last page to upgrade to new template and update with data from 2020 Census. Since Mexico City doesn't have municipalities, but territorial demarcations, should the pagename be updated? What's the easiest process? Cheers. Coyatoc (talk) 14:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree it would be best to rename the page, just as the alcaldías of Mexico City are distinguished from the municipios of other states in Spanish. Prior to 2016, I think the subdivisions of Mexico City were usually called boroughs in English. Mexico News Daily still uses "borough".[1][2] So does at least one recent book. Can more examples/counterexamples be found? If Boroughs of Mexico City is indeed the best name to use, we can request a move to that page. Cobblet (talk) 16:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Boroughs were used to refer to delegaciones, the subdivisions of the old Federal District. Since its name change to Mexico City in 2016 and according to the Mexico City constitution, delegaciones are now officially called "demarcaciones territoriales" or, more colloquially, alcaldías. I am not sure if borough or demarcation is the right translation for "demarcación", the most appropriate term I've found is "division". But if borough can be used within this context, referring to the current alcaldías rather than the older delegaciones, happy to use that term. Coyatoc (talk) 16:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, from Article 52 and 53, it appears the distinction between demarcaciones territoriales and alcaldías is between the territorial division and the administrative organ responsible for that division.

Article titles should conform to WP:CRITERIA. To achieve the aims of recognizability and naturalness, it's best to adopt translations used in reliable sources unless we don't see any pattern of consistent usage in those sources. Wikipedia shouldn't coin new terms not used in any reliable source unless there is no other reasonable course of action. Even leaving the term untranslated might be preferable to coining a novel translation, and would in fact be recommended if that is what reliable English-language sources consistently do as well (e.g., hacienda). Cobblet (talk) 16:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, we can keep using boroughs, I'll make the changes in the article and then we can request the move. Thanks for your feedback. Coyatoc (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 March 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 17:33, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Municipalities of Mexico City → Boroughs of Mexico City – Mexico City doesn't have municipalities, details are in the Talk page of the article. Coyatoc (talk) 18:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I moved it here as I was standardizing Mexico City's articles (it was at Mexico City's boroughs previously). (CC) Tbhotch^™ 18:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Yep this makes sense, should it still be included in template for municipalities though, as it seems functionally equivalent? Mattximus (talk) 22:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per comments in the previous discussion. "Borough" is used by the English edition of El Universal ([3], [4]), and by City Population. However, the city itself prefers to just call them alcaldías in English, although it acknowledges the comparison to New York's boroughs. Probably the best thing to do with the template would be to put Mexico City in a note explaining it's not a state so its subdivisions aren't municipalities. Cobblet (talk) 20:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:COMMONNAME. At least it seems that English language sources are still using the term "boroughs". oknazevad (talk) 04:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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