- I'm not sure what this sentence means: "the teaming was considered as an odd couple managing the company's front office"
- The source says, "... he and Phillips made rather an odd couple at the top of the chain of command." This because each man was the antithesis of the other, like Felix Unger and Oscar Madison were to each other in The Odd Couple (1970 TV series). I wikilinked the television show to allude to this type of comparison. I removed the link to front office as this does not correlate well with the "top of the chain of command", favoring "the company's highest office."—John Cline (talk) 01:45, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- My suggestion: "The teaming was...an odd couple" -> "Boots and Phillips were... an odd team" CorporateM (Talk) 03:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree that this is a better fit. Done—John Cline (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "aside opposition within the executive corps." -> "despite opposition from executive staff"
- Done—John Cline (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "A conservative criticism of the relationship between Phillips and Adams suggests mildly that "They often disagreed as to how the company should be run."[11]" -> "According to _______ "They often disagreed...." or "Phillips and Adams often disagreed about"
- Done—John Cline (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "amber light of caution relented to a green light of authority to move forward" much too metaphorical
- Replaced ambiguous metaphor with factual clarification.—John Cline (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Just before becoming the president of Phillips Petroleum, Adams turned his attention to the company's amateur basketball team." Could probably be trimmed
- Trimmed slightly.—John Cline (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Boots Adams, remembering his days as a member of the Phillips 66ers, wanted to revive the program. " Also trimmable, we should always be cautious in including someone's alleged motives with a leniency towards not doing so. CorporateM (Talk) 19:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree, replaced synthesized presumption with statement of fact.—John Cline (talk) 04:47, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Attribution added.—John Cline (talk) 09:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- At a glance, the following sentences come to mind as potentially trimmable
- "Phillips instructed Adams: "I'm going to object to everything you do, but you go ahead and do it anyway." (redundant with the prior sentence, but might be ok)
- Restructured prose in most recent copyedit.—John Cline (talk) 09:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Prior to becoming the president of Phillips Petroleum, Adams turned his attention to the company's amateur basketball team."
- Copyedited sentence to remove the extraneous prepositional phrase.—John Cline (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Adams signed... Lastly he recruited..."
- Done—John Cline (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "At the 1938, stockholders and board of directors annual meeting Phillips said he wanted K.S. Adams, "the fast-talking young man from Kansas with the big ideas, [to] be elected as the new president of Phillips Petroleum Company"."
- Copyedited prose to clarify with a more succinct delivery.—John Cline (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Restructured prose a bit further in the most recent copyedit.—John Cline (talk) 09:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Adams was referred to as Frank Phillips' "visionary disciple" in Gale Morgan Kane's book, Bartlesville Means Business."
- Modified with above mentioned copyedit.—John Cline (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Moved sentence and modified its prose a bit further.—John Cline (talk) 09:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I still think this is promotional and not informative, but I won't be a stickler for it. CorporateM (Talk) 13:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- CorporateM (Talk) 14:32, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Although the 66ers lost the championship that year, 43–38, columnist Chet Nelson called the game "the greatest game Rocky Mountain fans ever witnessed."" - what made the game so great? CorporateM (Talk) 14:32, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Added some details to hopefully reduce the ambiguity regarding this statement. To gain a fuller appreciation of the excitement this game generated, the reader would have to research the included source to gain further insight. To include the Nth detail here requires disproportionate prose and belies the summary writing style endeavored. I am open to suggestions, and further collaborative considerations if it is deemed to be needed.—John Cline (talk) 09:25, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Some of this "visionary disciple" and "dream team" stuff I still think is promotional and un-informative, but I won't be a stickler for it. CorporateM (Talk) 13:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I understand, and primarily agree. Here is my take on what happened: Because I researched the sources, I am aware of the "back story" which relates to each of these points. Their inclusion was originally more of a placeholder to me. To remind of a relevant chapter in the story of Boots Adams' life. I can see that these "placeholder points" do not fit well; standing alone. So, I will either produce the separate subsections of expanded prose which bears on these points, or I will remove the point until such time when I or someone else appends the clarifying prose these placeholders require. Fair enough?—John Cline (talk) 16:19, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Both monikers have been removed.—John Cline (talk) 08:25, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- "Nevertheless, Adams was able to secure Frank Phillips' confidence, and the authority to move his ideas forward.[14][15]" Do we have any examples of his business accomplishments? This section has a really heavy focus on the amateur sports team and I just realized upon re-read doesn't say much about his work as an executive except regarding his relationship with the President. CorporateM (Talk) 02:31, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- The years which included his building of the 1937 team were his years as Assistant to the President. During that period, he was not at liberty or at large to decide or dictate policy. Assisting the president, and seeing his directives implemented, were the primary norm. Reconstituting the team is currently the only effort I know of where the buck stopped at his desk, before actually becoming president of the company. Aside that, his building the team, coupled with his participation as a player are cited for his induction into the AAU HoF. It also demonstrates his "Achilles heel"; a propensity of high expectations and meticulous attention to detail. Either a son, or a grandson is alleged to have committed suicide under the stress of trying to "make proud". Also his son Bud is quoted as saying, in effect: that he loved basketball but couldn't build a team because he could never meet his Dad's expectations; citing the 1937 team his father built. And of course, Bud instead pursued football, building the Houston Oilers as a charter member of the AFL, through all changes in city and name unto the Tennessee Titans. These form part of the reason it is included.—John Cline (talk) 08:25, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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