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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Boomerang (Nicole Scherzinger song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 20:45, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

As the song is a childhood favourite of mine (I was 11 at the time of release), I am very glad to see this nominated and will take a lot of pride in reviewing it! --K. Peake 20:45, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Recording date is unsourced; will.i.am recording with her for the album this was slated to appear on doesn't back up the date

•  Fixed Okay, can see how this is a bit synthesisy

• Lil-unique1 This is still kept here with no source, or do you intend to add one in the body soon? --K. Peake 08:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Are you sure Record Plant is in Hollywood?

•  Fixed, there are two Record Plan studios, one in LA and one in NYC. Granted can't actually tell if the LA one is in hollywood or not so i've cleared that up

• Pipe Interscope to Interscope Records

•  Fixed

• "recorded in 2012 for her then upcoming" → "originally intended for her then-upcoming"

•  Fixed

• "It was released on" → "The song was released as a single on" with the pipe, plus swap this with the writing/production sentence for the correct order

•  Fixed

• ""Boomerang" was written by" → "It was written by" but why are the songwriters ordered differently here than the infobox and body?

•  Fixed

• A comma should be before the usage of "and" in the writing info per American English on connectives

•  Fixed

• "Wilhelm, Preston and" → "Wilhelm, Preston, and"

•  Fixed

• The previous collaborations sentence should be removed, as it's not notable for the lead

•  Fixed

• ""Boomerang" is a" → "It is a"

•  Fixed

• "electropop and pop" → "electropop, and pop song" with the pipe

•  Fixed

• Lil-unique1 You only added the comma; the pipe for pop and the word song in prose were not included. --K. Peake 08:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "speak about getting back up" → "speak about coming back" per the body's wording

•  Fixed

• "The song drew comparisons to the song" → "The song was compared to"

•  Fixed

• "as well other works" → "as well as other works"

•  Fixed

• "A music video featuring kaleidoscope camera effects," → "An accompanying music video featuring a kaleidoscope camera effect," with the wikilink, plus this should be at the end of this para instead

•  Fixed

• Lil-unique1 I meant at the end of this para if reception was still in this para; since it's not, I should've specified before that this should follow both critical and commercial reception, even if switching the order means changes to what is in the paras currently. --K. Peake 08:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Geometric shapes are not sourced, only Scherzinger appearing in a geometric and pipe to Geometry, plus monochrome backgrounds are not sourced

•  Not fixed It's synopsis and can be seen by watching the video

• Lil-unique1 What is the guideline on that and you need to write this out in the body too either way? --K. Peake 18:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake, I've always been told in the past that the guideline on plot summaries applies. The particular guidance I've referred to is at MOS:TVPLOT, where it says Plot summaries, and other aspects of a program's content, may be sourced from the works themselves, as long as only basic descriptions are given.. Now granted this isn't at WP:SONGS, however music videos and TV episodes are both works of media so I any logical reason why this doesn't apply. Similarly WP:PRIMARY says A primary source may be used on Wikipedia only to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts and says Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Writing_about_fiction#Plot_summaries_of_individual_works Because works of fiction are primary sources in their articles, basic descriptions of their plots are acceptable without reference to an outside source. I've added the music video itself as a source. That should suffice? ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 20:38, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

• This is totally understandable; good job you did not put the ref in the lead though since that's a big no-no! --K. Peake 21:22, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

• Since the video info should be moved, change the reception sentence to: "The visual received positive reviews from critics, with them praising..."

•  Fixed

• "from music critics who criticised" → "from music critics, who criticized"

•  Fixed

• Pipe chorus to Refrain

•  Fixed

• "UK mid-week charts, it was" → "UK midweek chart, the song had been"

•  Fixed

• Remove the UK's biggest radio stations introduction because it is not sourced and they are mentioned as the country's radio stations in the body

•  Fixed

• "due it not" → "due to it not"

•  Fixed

• "In the end the song" → "In the end, the song"

•  Fixed

• "its single chart debuted in" → "its single chart debut in"

•  Fixed

• "number six in" → "while reaching number six in"

•  Fixed

• "It was also" → "The song was also"

•  Fixed

• Gold should not be capitalised, plus mention the name of the Venezuela certification body

•  Fixed

• The ten year partnership is not sourced, unlike the rest of the sentence

•  Fixed

• The song being her last release under Interscope is not directly sourced; you only mention her leaving the label nearly a year later

•  Fixed, boosted with an interview with The Official Top 40 which acknowledges that she disappeared after "Boomerang".

• "her second album Big Fat Lie," → "her second studio album, Big Fat Lie (2014),"

•  Fixed,

• ""Boomerang" was now" → "the song was now"

•  Fixed

• "the song belong to" → "the song belongs to"

•  Fixed

Will get to the rest later ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 17:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Background and release

• [1] is useless here when it backs up none of the info

•  Fixed Not quite true, in the MTV interview Scherzinger says "So it's definitely got empowering, strong dance anthems and then I got an urban twist in there and some really good uplifting songs as well". For clarify I've added this source from Billboard which mentioned a new track listing etc.

• The alternate track listing and the quote for what it was set to be made up of are not sourced

• see above

• "had over forty songs to" → "had over 40 songs to" per MOS:NUM

•  Fixed

• "of reality TV show," → "of reality TV show" but are you sure it is the USA version and why is 2012 called the following year when this source is dated 2013?

•  Fixed

• The following parts up to the Digital Spy reporting are unsourced

•  Fixed

• "to tenth series," → "to the 10th series,"

•  Fixed

• "for her upcoming second album," → "for the album," but the signalled parts are not sourced

•  Fixed

• Pipe single to Single (music)

•  Fixed

• "on her second studio album." → "on her then-upcoming second album."

•  Fixed

• Remove pipes on ninth UK series and The X Factor, unless these are non-existant earlier if you don't manage to source certain info

•  Fixed

• Pipe download to Music download

•  Fixed

• "Ruzz Loaderz and" → "Ruzz Loaderz, and"

•  Fixed

• Pipe Cahill to Cahill (group)

•  Fixed

• "March 10 in the UK" → "while released in the former format on March 10 in the United Kingdom," to be specific

•  Fixed

• Wikilink record label

•  Fixed

• Pipe Interscope to Interscope Records

•  Fixed

• If you can source it, try to mention around this area that "Boomerang" was the last song of hers under the label

•  Fixed

• ""it's just going" → ""It's just going" per the source

•  Not fixed erroneous to have capitals in the middle of a sentence

• "were all scrapped." → "were all scrapped, though considered releasing the songs for her fans eventually." per the source

•  Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 17:42, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• will.i.am should not be capitalised per the stylization of his name, plus either source the previous collabs in the prose of the previous section where they belong with the info about will.i.am recording with Scherzinger or reword the img to mentioning that he was one of the producers

•  Fixed

• ""Boomerang" is a" → "Musically, "Boomerang" is a"

•  Fixed

• The genres of dance and pop should be listed as separate ones rather than the dance-pop genre per WP:STICKTOSOURCE

•  Fixed

• Add "song" at the end of the genre listings

•  Fixed

• "Anthony Preston and" → "Anthony Preston, and"

•  Fixed

• "moniker "Sandy Vee", Preston and" → "moniker of Sandy Vee, Preston, and"

•  Fixed

• Remove wikilink on will.i.am

•  Fixed

• An s is needed after the apostrophe for correct grammar

•  Fixed

• Remove or replace Metro per WP:RSP; if this is not replaced, then remove the Gaga and Jessie J info from the lead

•  Fixed

• "at Record Plant" → "at the Record Plant"

•  Fixed

• Pipe synth to Synthesizer

•  Fixed

• "compared the song" → "compared the song with"

•  Fixed

• Try to put parts quoted from Idolator in the second para into your own words to avoid WP:QUOTEFARM

•  Fixed

• Mention the repeated instances of "Oh!" on the chorus per 13

•  Fixed

Critical reception

• "has received mixed reviews from music critics." → "was met with mixed reviews from music critics." with the pipe

•  Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 21:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

• Remove wikilink on Digital Spy

•  Fixed

• "praised the song awarding" → "praised the song, awarding"

•  Fixed

• "Copsey said "The" → "Copsey said: "The"

•  Fixed

• Remove wikilink on will.i.am

•  Fixed

• "grows on the ears."" → "grows on the ears"." per MOS:QUOTE

•  Fixed

• Idolator should be italicised, plus remove the pipe

•  Fixed

• "mixed review stating:" → "mixed review, stating:"

•  Fixed

• "is an earworm."" → "is an earworm"."

•  Fixed

• Remove wikilink on The Irish Times, plus move this review to being before Idolator since it's positive and mention the "Jolly good fun" part

•  Fixed

• "said, "Boomerang" was" → "said that "Boomerang" is"

•  Fixed

• "John Dingwell writing a review for the Daily Record said," → "John Dingwell, writing a review for the Daily Record, said,"

•  Fixed

• "calling the song a" → "calling the song"

•  Fixed

• "you've ever heard."" → "you've ever heard"."

•  Fixed

Chart performance

• Retitle to Commercial performance

•  Fixed

• Remove pipe on Daily Record and add "the" before both it and Daily Mirror

•  Fixed

• "had not playlisted the" → "had not playlisted the song"

•  Fixed

• "and adding that there" → "and added that there"

•  Fixed

• "despite appearing on" → "despite Scherzinger on"

•  Fixed

• ""Boomrang" shifted 32,520 copies" → ""Boomerang" pushed 32,520 copies in the UK"

  ✗ Not done - neither here nor there.

• Remove "despite the lack of radio support" due to it being more or less repeating the start of the sentence before the clause, plus add a semi-colon after midweek chart for correct separation

•  Fixed

• Move the UK chart info to being before that of Ireland in the second para, as positions should be ordered geographically

• Not sure This sentence/section is ordered chronologically because this was back when songs were released in different dates according to different countries' chart tracking weeks. Therefore the way this is written makes sense given it was released in Ireland before the UK

• Oh yeah with this context in mind, keep as things are. --K. Peake 07:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

• "On March 14, 2013," → "Two days prior," per above

• Per above

• "becoming her seventh top-ten single in territory." → "becoming Scherzinger's seventh top-10 single in Ireland."

•  Fixed

• "Two days later, it debuted" → "On March 16, 2013, the song debuted"

•  Fixed

• "in the United Kingdom." → "in the UK."

✗ Not done stylistic - UK versus United Kingdom neither here nor there.

Lil-unique1 you have already used the United Kingdom earlier in the body, so change to UK here. --K. Peake 07:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

•  Fixed

• "Official Charts Company noted" → "The Official Charts Company noted"

•  Fixed

• "by the end of the week resulting" → "by the end, resulting"

• ✗ Not done its clearer the original way as it's referring to the tracking week

• Lil-unique1 this is straight after the bit about the start of the week, so it is useless to mention the word again plus you need to add the comma before resulting. --K. Peake 07:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

• "the UK's Official Streaming Chart becoming" → "the UK's Official Streaming Chart, becoming" with the pipe

•  Fixed`

• Mention the Scotland position directly after the UK since everything in the lead needs to be written out in the body, plus write about the Venezuela certification at the end
•  Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 22:10, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Music video

Background

• "as Editor and" → "as Editor, and"

•  Fixed

• Remove pipe on ninth UK series

•  Fixed

• Remove pipe on The X Factor

•  Fixed

• Pipe behind the scenes to Making-of

•  Fixed

• "first week of December." → "first week of December 2012."

•  Fixed

• "released online, in the preview a" → "released online; in the preview, a"

Synopsis

• Wikilink music video and kaleidoscope on the img text

•  Fixed

• "was both 80s-inspired and futuristic." → "is futuristic." due to the former statement coming from the unreliable source

•  Fixed

• Remove or replace PopCrush per WP:RSSM

•  Fixed

• The TV screens set out in a plus shape is not sourced

• ✗ Not done - sourced from the video itself as discussed in prior section.

• "dressed in a black leath and lace dreess," → "dressed in black leather hot pants and a leather jacket," but this is the only part of the sentence that is sourced

• ✗ Not done - sourced from the video itself as discussed in prior section.

• None of the kaleidoscope sentence is sourced apart from the geometric part; use 34 for the effect

• ✗ Not done - sourced from the video itself as discussed in prior section.

• Pipe geometric to Geometry

•  Fixed

• Remove pipe on chorus

•  Fixed

• "across the screen."" → "across the screen"." per MOS:QUOTE

•  Fixed

• There are multiple parts from the Rap-Up source that can be added in this sub-section besides the effect

•  Fixed

• "by Contemporary R&B" → "by contemporary R&B"

•  Fixed

Reception

• Remove pipe on Capital FM

•  Fixed

• "the video, a reviewer" → "the video; a reviewer"

•  Fixed

• "said the video showcases Scherzinger's "best dance moves"" → "said the "energetic" video showcases Scherzinger's "best dance moves"." to avoid repetition.

•  Fixed

• "Meanwhile the in an article in the" → "Meanwhile, in an article for"

•  Fixed

• "was praised for" → "was praised by the staff for"

•  Fixed

• Remove or replace PopCrush per my earlier comment

•  Fixed

• "video, saying "The" → "video, saying: "The"

•  Fixed

• The video award should not be in speech marks

•  Fixed

Promotion

• Remove the opening sentence, as that is repeating music video info

 Fixed

• Pipe charity concert to Benefit concert

 Fixed

• "March 6, 2013." → "on March 6, 2013."

 Fixed

• "Scherzinger also performed live" → "Scherzinger performed the song live"

 Fixed

• "and live on stage at" → "and on stage at"

 Fixed

• Italicise Daybreak and pipe to Daybreak (2010 TV programme)

 Fixed

• "and performance of" → "and a performance of"

 Fixed

• "patterned jacket with an" → "patterned jacket, alongside an"

 Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 16:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Track listing

• Pipe Cahill to Cahill (group)

 Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 16:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Credits

• Retitle to Credits and personnel

 Fixed

• Promo News → Promonews

 Fixed

• Are you sure Record Plant is in Hollywood?

 Fixed

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel

 Fixed

• The video credits should be in the same order that the source lists

✗ Not done I have always listed song, OR video credits in alpha order (by surname)

• production designera → production designer

 Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 16:41, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Charts

• Good

Certifications

• Good

Release history

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION

 Fixed

• Add a separate col for the refs, centring them

 Fixed

• Are you sure the labels listed for UK and NZ releases are correct?

• Yep, Polydor releases Interscope records in the UK - interscope paid for the song etc but it wasn't actually released in any territories where Interscope is a frontline label. Universal distributes the songs around the world.

• Shouldn't the CD single be added here?

• Although I know of the existence of CD single (even if it was limited release), I'm not sure of when it was released. I can't source this from Digital spy - it would be OR as its not actually mentioned in the source if that makes sense? ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 16:51, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

References

• Copyvio score looks meekly above average at 32.0%
• Top job with the archiving of these!
• Cite MTV News as publisher instead for ref 1, replacing the other one

 Fixed

• Cite Digital Spy as publisher instead for refs 3, 9, 11 and 18

 Fixed

• WP:OVERLINK of Digital Spy on ref 4 and cite as publisher instead, plus correct the date to July 31, 2012

 Fixed

• Pipe Ie.7digital.com to 7digital on ref 7

 Fixed

• Cite AllMusic as publisher for ref 10

 Fixed

• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 13 and change Idolator.com to Idolator, citing as website instead

 Fixed

• Remove or replace ref 14 per WP:RSP

 Fixed

• The Daily Record → Daily Record on ref 19, citing as work instead

 Fixed

• Remove pipe on Daily Record for ref 21

 Fixed

• Wikilink Official Charts Company on ref 23

 Fixed

• Remove ref 24, as the following ref backs all that up

 Fixed

• Cite Irish-charts.com as publisher instead for ref 25

 Fixed

• Remove wikilink on Official Charts Company for ref 26

 Fixed

• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 27

 Fixed

• Promo News → Promonews on ref 28, citing as work/website instead

 Fixed

• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 29, cite last name before first and change Idolator.com to Idolator, citing as website instead

 Fixed

• Remove or replace ref 30 per WP:RSSM

 Fixed

• WP:OVERLINK of MTV News on ref 32 and cite as publisher instead

 Fixed

• Remove the publisher from ref 33

 Fixed

• RapUp → Rap-Up on ref 36

 Fixed

• Cite Chortle as publisher instead for ref 37

 Fixed

• Pipe ITV 1 to ITV (TV channel) on ref 38

 Fixed

• Pipe Daybreak to Daybreak (2010 TV programme) on ref 40

 Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 17:31, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; I still love this song even after relistening eight years later though!!! --K. Peake 16:29, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

• All done! I have to say I ended up listening to this song loads while doing the changes. I must admit I like it a lot more now than I did originally back then. I can see why this direction never stuck but the performances and energy were great. The song still knocks, its just feel good! ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 17:34, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

• Lil-unique1 Nice to see you have addressed everything by now; I will check if all of the fixes have been implemented properly tomorrow (it's 21:52 right now UTC). --K. Peake 21:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

• Lil-unique1 You have missed a number of issues, which I will go through below:

• The recording date is still listed in the infobox.

• Not sure. I believe the reason I left this in was because Scherzinger said she was working with will.i.am in 2021 and then the song was teased that year too - I thought that was fairly obvious. But if I need a source that specific says "x was recorded in y" then I'll remove it.

• You did not add a comma before "and" in the writing sentence.

•  Fixed

• You did not add the word "song" after the genres in the lead.

•  Fixed

• The music video and reception sentences there are in the wrong order.

•  Fixed

• You did not change the "for her upcoming second album," part.

•  Fixed

• Lil-unique1 I did some copy editing where things were partially implemented, but you totally missed this one; it is in the Digital SPy sentence. --K. Peake 21:53, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

• will.i.am previous collaboration info should be moved to background instead since it's relevant there.

•  Fixed

• The dance and pop genres were split in the body but not infobox, plus electropop still remains despite no RS confirming it.

•  Fixed

• You missed "the" before Record Plant in prose.

• ✗ Not done, I'd rephrased that so it says "recorded at Record plant studios in Los Angeles". Not everything needs the word "the" in front of it, particularly as "the" is not part of the title of the studios and there is more than one (one in NY and one in LA).

• You should not start "the" with caps before Daily Record and Daily Mirror.

•  Fixed good spot, changed

• You did not change the part to specifying the song was Scherzinger's seventh top 10 single in Ireland.

•  Fixed

• The repetitive part where "the week" is used was not fixed by you.

•  Fixed

• You did not remove the useless "also" from promotion.

•  Fixed ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 20:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

--K. Peake 07:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

• Lil-unique1 ✓ Pass now, you did not fix the one last query I mentioned properly but that looks like it was due to being slightly confused about what I wanted it reworded to, so I edited in the fix. --K. Peake 08:26, 28 March 2021 (UTC)