Talk:BonziBuddy/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

2003 case and other links

Ug, these have been a pain to drag down, as internetnews.com has the links down now.

1. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/2212851
   1. Jun 06, 2003 archive of the case summary (http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/2212851)
2. http://web.archive.org/web/20030618110224/http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/1551941
   1. Jun 18, 2003 archive of original filing with Dec 4 date (http://www.internetnews.com/IAR/article.php/1551941)

Also, there is 40 articles on internetnews.com about it [1] - so that is a varitable gold mine; they are all down basically but archive.org is working.

RN 21:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I made several changes, some quite minor, some a little more major. One of the key changes was to the paragraph about these court cases. If you read the article very carefully, it seems that the "deceptive advertising" settlement article on Internetnews.com did not say "tricking the user onto the company's website where the user can install BonziBUDDY." The word "tricking" here seems to me unnecessarily pejorative; the description of the ads seems clear enough and is uncontroversially factual.

I am in contact with one of the principals of the company, and he seems happy to work with me and through me to reach an NPOV version of the article. While my edits should NOT be considered as decrees as to the details of the content, please understand a couple of things... (1) there is no need for hysteria about caving to legal demands, there are no legal demands, just someone who feels that the article was unfair to the company, and who is working with kindness with me to try to resolve the issue in a mutually satisfactory way and (2) we have a moral obligation to be precise and neutral in all. In a case like this, the unpopularity of BonziBUDDY will shine through without our article introducing any moral condemnation at all.

I have not made all of the changes requested of me, because I am waiting on further verification. So more may be coming. --Jimbo Wales 19:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Future

1. Reviews - I'd like to change "Reports of spyware" to "reception" and go on a bit about the social papar above and some reviews (hopefully with some balance)
2. A tiny bit about adware
3. A few tweaks to intro to make slightly longer
4. Tweaks to Overview for a bit more description and maybe paraphrase the quote and talk more about what the bonzi site says about it
5. Source the stuff in the infobox just for paranoia :)

RN 23:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

People

We need to name the prominent people behind the scenes. Who thought of Bonzi buddy? Who created it? Who were the 'execs' at the time? No doubt these people will show up on the asshole radar in the future and it's nice to know their history, stringing together the pieces of unethical activities.

You are right. I would also like to know this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.199.237.224 (talk) 09:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

The BonziBuddy image

Is the BonziBuddy image public domain? If not, we can't use it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pdedecker (talk • contribs) 19:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

I know this comment is old... but see WP:FAIRUSE for more info on using non-PD images. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 16:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Other page thoughts

Should this page be moved to bonzi buddy? I was looking on the history of bonzi trees. 67.167.34.81 03:36, 21 January 2007 (UTC)Kyle Caulfield

It's spelt 'bonsai'. Nearly right. Lady BlahDeBlah 18:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo's reversion

I don't get it [2]

WAS's edits are providing a much more objective, and source-reflecting accurately worded phrasing.

This phrase in particular is horrendous Weasely unsourced crap that wikipedia gets criticised for: "and most or all major reporting sites today classify it as adware rather than spyware" (no citation).--ZayZayEM 02:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo is really taking control of this article and I don't get why. Is there some kind of legal issue? Most of his other decisions have been clear and explained but on this article I've not heard anything. William Ortiz

Aren't you going against the wishes of the founder of this amazing encyclopedia? He specifically indicated that BonziBUDDY is adware, not spyware. You all should put it back to how it was when the founder left it. - Havecloud 04:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Jimbo has as much authority in determining article content as we do. Unless he pulls "rank", that is. Now, Jimbo is a smart guy and is well-respected around here, so it's never a good idea to ignore him, but he wouldn't ever want us to stop editing an article just because he touched it. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 16:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

"He specifically indicated that BonziBUDDY is adware..." So what? He can indicate all he wants. The fact that he's the founder doesn't suddenly make The Smurfs yellow... Mpvdm (talk) 06:21, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

In April 2007, PCWorld readers voted Bonzi Buddy 6th on a list of "the top 10 most annoying tech products".

must be In April 2007, PCWorld (english) readers voted Bonzi Buddy 6th on a list of "the top 10 most annoying tech products".. E.g. in germany you dont find it: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=BonziBUDDY+pcworld&btnG=Suche&meta=lr%3Dlang_de. --84.137.120.136 15:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Cite personal communication

If Jimbo or his entourage is going to insert material regarding the companies dispute of claims against its products they are going to have include a citation rather than just a pisspoor effort with a {{cn}} tag.

I'm just gonna assume you guys are aware of policies like WP:V and WP:NOR, and guidelines like WP:CS, that I don't have to spell them out for you.

We wouldn't let any editor insert material into an article because "Oh, the company sent me an email saying so", (would we?). As mentioned Jimbo (or Jzg) does not get to pull rank.--ZayZayEM (talk) 03:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Adware

Recently my computer was infected with adware (which I thankfully removed using Windows Defender) and it installed an icon on my desktop labelled 'BONZIBuddy' when I read the main article i was shocked.—Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWorm202 (talk • contribs) 13:31, 8 June 2008

I actually got infected with this a few years back, and i wasn't even able to access websites that could help me, because bonzi buddy said they were unsafe sites... yeah, Norton Anti-Virus's website is unsafe... NOT! Also, when i opened my anti-virus, it closed it instantly and said "That program is unsafe and might be trying to give your computer a virus." Xandrez192 (talk) 22:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Update that introduced to Bonzi?

Hi

I'm using the bonzibuddy program and the moment. What was the filename of the installer that would introudce me to Bonzi?--92.2.12.20 (talk) 10:05, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Adding Bonzi Community link to extrnal links

I will add link to bonzi community to external links. It will be useful for peoples who want to know more about BonziBUDDY and need help with BonziBUDDY. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fakenstein666 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Bonzi Buddy's 2014 popularity

Should we note on the article that Joel of Vinesauce caused Bonzi Buddy to become popular recently? In his Windows XP Destruction livestream [where he used a Windows XP emulator] he downloaded various viruses, and went on an Angelfire website with a Bonzi Buddy download. And then everyone expanded dong. -Fastpager200 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.172.181 (talk) 15:13, 16 May 2014 (UTC)