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Merge

I've always heard it called an Up and under and there's an article there as well. This may be a UK/Australia/NZ difference. Anyway, one way or another the articles should be merged.--Moonlight Mile 08:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a slight difference, I guess. In league, a midfield bomb is pretty rare, it's mainly a scoring play. Whilst in union, it may be those sort of kicks might be used more as a general kicking tactic (?). Bomb is Aus. RL usage, it seems someone familiar with that terminology got here first.

I merged the text in the article up and under into the article bomb kick as the article "bomb kick" was a day or two older than the "up and under" article and it was more developed. I then moved the merged article from "bomb kick" to "up and under" as that name is used by both codes of rugby and will therefor not look out of place in the categories of both codes. So the old edit history of the "up and under" article has been deleted and the current history is from the article "bomb kick". --Philip Baird Shearer 13:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re-name?

If in rugby league and Aussie Rules it's a bomb kick and in rugby union it's (apparently) a "Garryowen" why on earth is this article called "Up and under"?--Jeff79 (talk) 08:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, this article would be better called "bomb kick". This is definitely the predominant term used in UK rugby league and media for this kind of kick now. LunarLander // talk // 15:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's slang coined by the media, much like "stanza" isn't really an official term for each half of a game. Would a redirect hurt though, since it so popular as a term? GW(talk) 16:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK, the term 'bomb kick' isn't really used in Aussie rules - it's just used as a verb for a long kick to a pack, rather than a deliberate pass to a teammate, nothing to do with a high kick... "he's bombed it long into the forward line". An up and under is a short high kick, often a miskick, or even a similar styled handball - and term was probably stolen from one of the Rugby codes. Neither term is used that much, as it generally isn't advantageous to do that style of kick. Maybe it's different in Victoria or South Australia.The-Pope (talk) 16:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you read the discussion above, the reason why this article got this name is that "bomb kick" isn't used much in rugby union.GordyB (talk) 18:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Does it occur much in rugby union? Bombs are put up in pretty much every game of modern rugby league.--Jeff79 (talk) 15:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately it is back in fashion in the Northern Hemisphere, they seem to have forgotten about phase play. --PBS (talk) 23:31, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And they refer to it as an "up and under", not a bomb?--Jeff79 (talk) 23:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A Google search for 284 for ["bomb kick" union] returns 284 half of those are mirrors of this page the others seem to be similar comparisons. ["up an under" union] returns "about 13,400" a simple search on garryowen is difficult to construct, as garryowen pulls up articles on the rugby club as well as the kick, but while trying I came across this of topic ditty. -- PBS (talk) 20:28, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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