Talk:Boleras
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Is boleras a style of flamenco?
[edit]I do not consider boleras to be a style of flamenco: as the article suggests. The sources are not reliable in my opinion. The boleras is a style of Spanish dance in the ballet tradition. There are musical influences appearing in flamenco, but that is not the same thing. 2.102.238.211 (talk) 09:14, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- This article is about the cante, which is flamenco. You are referring to the escuela bolera, which does not have an article in the English Wiki. Neodop (talk) 12:21, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. I cannot find any examples to support the claim that 'boleras' (cante chico) exists. The only references I find are either here, or copies /translations of this page. In order for a cante to become recognized as a style of flamenco, flamenco artists have to actually perform it. While there may be an example of a singer performing it somewhere, unbeknownst to me, there is also the question of wider recognition - which appears to be missing in this case. I am happy to maintain an open mind, but until a respected flamencologist can confirm the claim that such a cante exists, I believe this article to be incorrect. 78.145.152.230 (talk) 18:28, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- When I said 'singer' above, I meant to say 'flamenco singer'. 123flamenco (talk) 18:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. I cannot find any examples to support the claim that 'boleras' (cante chico) exists. The only references I find are either here, or copies /translations of this page. In order for a cante to become recognized as a style of flamenco, flamenco artists have to actually perform it. While there may be an example of a singer performing it somewhere, unbeknownst to me, there is also the question of wider recognition - which appears to be missing in this case. I am happy to maintain an open mind, but until a respected flamencologist can confirm the claim that such a cante exists, I believe this article to be incorrect. 78.145.152.230 (talk) 18:28, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
The book, 'Flamenco' Edited by Claus Schreiner, is written by amateur flamenco enthusiats. The name 'boleras' occurs in a list of 'cantes chicos'. No further reference is given. With zero modern proponents, and with a stretch of the imagination, boleras may have been a style of flamenco fallen into disuse. However, the only reference I find is the dancer Vicente Escudero who added this folk dance to his repertoire. If there is no Spanish article with authoritative sources and foreign sources prove unreliable, I suggest this article be deleted. Alternatively, the article could be ammended and the term 'boleras' disambiguated by someone who knows what they are talking about. It has been three months since I raised the alarm and this article still exists. Likewise, in the styles of flamenco page: 'flamenco jazz' is not a style of flamenco. Author: Nick Wilkinson [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.250.252 (talk) 08:49, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Flamenco Edited by Claus Schreiner