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[edit]consider adding terms on freeboard, stern to listBillymac00 23:29, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Catamarans specifically, boatbuilding in general
[edit]I am not sure I understand why boat building of Catamarans, one point of view, should be featured so prominently, when a more diverse and neutral point of view is possible. Perhaps we can discuss and collaborate? BruceHallman 21:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
merge with Boat Building Process
[edit]I think this would be a good merge. BruceHallman 17:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with the merger. Boat building process deals with a specialism within boatbuilding - the moulding of laminated plastic boats. It is one of a set with Clinker (boat building) and (potentially) Carvel (boat building), double diagonal and so on. However, I think the title might be changed to make its position in the set clear. Boat building process is too general a title for the material the article contains. I suggest Fibre-reinforced moulding (boat building). That would allow the inclusion of glass fibre and carbon fibre reinforcement.
Also, I think the article should be re-written to make it less of a description of the practice within one firm and more one of the laminated moulding of boats generally. (RJP 13:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
- Disagree with merger, see reasons on Talk:Boat building process. --Knotnic 13:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Changed the title of that article to Fibre-reinforced moulding (there is no need for the "(boat building)" part as there is currently no other article with this title.) Please change title as needed. I'll also remove the merge tag, as that article is clearly about a specific process, and would clutter this one with unnecessary details (Liberatore, 2006). 18:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC) Changed again into {{Copyvio}}... (Liberatore, 2006). 18:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- You can add also sewed boat - planks + roots, please look at The building of a sewed wooden boat
I strongly disagree with the merger. The catagorization should revolve around the construction material and size, "ship-building" being too amorphous a title to mean anything useful. There is a world of difference between the traditional wood construction science and the newer laminates. There is also a vast tradition and history to each building material. "Boat-building" properly connotes a smaller or less complex process than ship-building. Boat-building can be done by anyone from a hobbyist to a marine architect. "Ship-Building" is the provence of entire commercial yards and companies. To amalgamate the two categories would mix and confuse the intent of the material. Use the method and the material to delineate, and keep "boat-building" separate from "ship-building".Ob1knowb (talk) 14:50, 31 January 2009 (UTC)User: ob1knowb 09:45, 31 January, 2009.
diy-home-makeover.com external link
[edit]This link keeps getting added back by different IP addresses but all from the same range. I don't see anyway that it passes the external links guidelines and I've assumed it's being spammed. but thought I should check in. Is there something I'm missing? Does this link have the support of other editors? --Siobhan Hansa 15:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- You are doing the right thing. --- Skapur 00:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
new person adding: how exactly do I build a boat using polysterene? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.12.220.252 (talk) 02:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Nice bottom
[edit]Since I can't find Swallow, worth a mention she was first to have her copper bottom sheathing entirely fastened with copper bolts, 1770? Montgomery Savage, Man of Copper 06:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Reinsert
[edit]please reinsert this section (after the references have been updated)
Seakeeping
[edit]Ships/boats are built by both amateurs and commercial companies. Often, boats build by amateurs only include smaller (and cheaper) boats, while commercial companies target to built small and larger boats with a higher price. Building smaller boats also has its effect on the seaworthiness of the boat [1], which means that amateur build ships are usually not very seaworthy [2]. However, larger boats (that incorporate a cabin, good keel and hull, ...) can be build by the amateur builder. To do so, amateur builders often tend to look at new/special boat designs such as trimarans which offer good seakeeping features. Alternatively, to lower the cost of obtaining a sturdy boat, builders often also fix up older boats. [3] [4]
Spent quite some time on it, and it relative to article so ... Update: Added other link of Webb Chiles Thanks, 81.246.189.8 (talk) 07:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
References
- ^ Choosing a boat for around the world voyages
- ^ Factors of seaworthiness What makes a boat seaworthy]
- ^ Amateur builders fixing up old boats
- ^ Finding old sailboats to fix up
Image needs replacement
[edit]Hello all...
An image used in the article, specifically Image:Boatconstruction.JPG, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.
You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I replaced the image, and added some more while I was at it. Didn't get around to formatting though; hopefully somebody will beat me to it, since that's not my favorite hobby. --Fullobeans (talk) 08:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hello, I like that you have more abut the boatbuilding history in article. It can be good for the reader to make the different methods more from each other, new and older methods like epoxy. Sincerely svenboatbuilder (talk) 10:35, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
illustration
[edit]Here I have a illustration on commons who describe a Midship section, parts with numbers [1]. Its can help to explane how a wooden boat or ship are build-up from structure. Boatbuilder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.230.211.136 (talk) 21:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
No illustrations!?
[edit]There should be some simple diagrams to show the hull types with descriptions. This is what bothers people about wikipedia - the media is lacking.--Ericg33 (talk) 09:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
-Pulau Duyung is a small and beautiful island in Malaysia.It is located at the mouth of the Terengganu River on the Coast of Peninsular Malaysia.The villagers on this small island build wooden fishing boats for a living.They have been in this trade for a very long time.Their skill in building boats are passed down from one generation to another. unsigned comment added by 115.132.194.223 (talk) 13:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
what a load of crap
[edit]While it is easy to cut, aluminium is difficult to weld, and also requires heat treatments such as precipitation strengthening for most applications. Corrosion is a concern with aluminium, particularly below the waterline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.198.18.69 (talk) 03:09, 14 October 2011 (UTC) I believe this comment may have been true before the 1980s but since then many boat building nations have developed a range of standard techniques to overcome earlier issues. Most aluminium boat built are trailer craft, so constant immersion is not a real problem . Chemical baths ,better paints, hosing down with fresh water,better welding methods,laser cutters and the use of correct sacrificial anodes on engine powered craft have all helped the production of quality alloy boats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 03:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Parts list is lengthy
[edit]Also The item in this section: Bitts may be vandalized. Unless there really is a wood called "sperm". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.228.89.105 (talk) 09:18, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
The Parts section should probably be moved to its own list article, with a summary and a link to full article here. There are too many parts, and the broad range applies to more an just boat building. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.115.67 (talk) 14:22, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Agreed. These are parts of a ship or boat, but not necessarily boat building. This would be like naming the parts of a house in the carpentry section. Door, Wall, Window, Roof, Shingles, etc. Unnecessary in this article. Split it out into it's own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.155.124.71 (talk) 15:28, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
There is good reason for the parts list -most anyone knows what parts of a house are but few folks know about boat parts beyond maybe mast and hull. If you are making a boat the plans may include a lot of terms you have never heard before. Also parts can have different names even in English -especially between Eastern USA and Britain or Australia/New Zealand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 05:31, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
Agreement on lengthiness of parts list, the information largely seems to be good, but is overly verbose for the topic without adding much clarity. Several of the terms could likely be linked to other preexisting pages to trim the length of the article. Kendathu (talk) 03:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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Glossary paragraph shifted to end.
[edit]I've shifted the glossary paragraph to the end. It's a good paragraph, but it's not really about boatbuilding. Should "Glossary" perhaps become a separate page? Arrivisto (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've just seen there is a Glossary of nautical terms page. Suggest that this glossary be incorporated into it, and a link attached to this page. Arrivisto (talk) 23:20, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
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