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Change: Bloor St. E stops at Parliament, not at the DVP. Torontois 02:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted this change, as Bloor Street East extends past Parliament Street to the Prince Edward Viaduct. dcandeto 09:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

somali

if someone can please point out where one would pass by the somoli community on bloor street. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.192.89.70 (talk) 06:52, 5 May 2007 (UTC).

Cleanup

This article needs a substantial cleanup. It reads like a pamphlet for shopping along Bloor. This article is not for describing the neighborhoods, its for a history, routing, and future of Bloor Street, along with a formal list of major intersections. I'll be by eventually, but if anyone else is interested, please, don't hesitate! - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 03:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Could you please note where policy bans listing major landmarks along a road? - SimonP (talk) 00:09, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't. Guidelines (which are to be followed if an article is to become GA or FA) for roads are decided, and if you don't like them then you are arguing against a very established consensus. Make it prose if it's that important (but a list of stores is a directory and the neighbourhoods belong in a properly written prose Route description). - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 04:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Alright, could you point out what guideline bans listing landmarks along city roads. - SimonP (talk) 14:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

The one that says we're writing a proper typewritten encyclopedia and not a travel guide and a bunch of lists? In fact, why don't you make the whole article a list of addresses along Bloor Street? We have standards. If you took this to GA or FA, the lists would be gone - FAST, or the article would fail. These are the ultimate goals for all articles. You are intentionally keen on going in the opposite direction, though. Why? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 15:55, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

List are perfectly acceptable in Wikipedia, we have hundreds of thousands of articles that are stand alone lists, and thousands of more articles that include lists within them. Why islist of Chicago Landmarks a fine article, but a list of landmarks within this article is not appropriate? - SimonP (talk) 16:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

There are better ways of presenting the information than a list, and only the neighbourhoods are appropriate information. All the shopping venues don't belong on this article. Yes, we have articles that are dedicated to being lists. You'll find almost no featured lists (if any), however, that are simply a bullet point column of entries arranged in order. They are all written or in table format and cleanly organized (something this article is not), like List of roads in Toronto. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 16:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Great, how about we then develop a cleaner format, with the landmarks in a table? As to the stores, Bloor St can be considered akin to a shopping centre, and it is typical for those articles to have information on what stores are there. - SimonP (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:ONRD/STDS#Structure describes how road articles should be structured. The landmarks can be mentioned in a written description of Bloor Street from west to east, the Route description. The "Sites along the street" section is the closest thing to this at the moment, but should be reversed to be west to east and not east to west and renamed "Route description". One list gone.

As for the stores, even The shopping centre wikiproject has a bunch of limits as to what should and should not go in a mall article. It also relies on WP:NOTDIR as the policy behind that decision. Certain stores are important and noteworthy (for a good example, the Carrot Common on Danforth). Holt Renfrew is not important to Toronto. Louis Vuitton is not important to Toronto. These are just franchises. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 16:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

(ec) WP:NOTTRAVEL: "Notable locations may meet the inclusion criteria, but the resulting articles need not include every tourist attraction, restaurant, hotel or venue, etc. Such details may be welcome at Wikitravel or Wikia travel instead." That "Shopping" section WP:OVERLINK with its sea of blue. Imzadi 1979 → 16:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

The lists generally include things that already have a Wikipedia article, and thus can be assumed to be notable enough for inclusion, so keeping them is fine. I've done a better formatted list at Lawrence Avenue, which I think would be a good format for all the street articles. - SimonP (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Possibly, it's certainly a start towards doing something other than leaving a long list. I don't believe that just because there is a Holt Renfrew store on Bloor that we should link to the corporation. There are several McDonald's along the road, but we don't list them. If the store is unique to Bloor, and has its own article, then YES! It should be in this article. That doesn't mean it should be in a list though. It should be integrated into the prose. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 17:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Holt Renfrew is fairly crucial to the reputation of Bay/Bloor. It is pretty much the anchor store to what is Canada's most famous elite shopping district. Two equivalents would be Rodeo Drive and Fifth Avenue, both of which have lists of stores. - SimonP (talk) 18:06, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

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