Talk:Blood (band)

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Genre

The music has nothing to do with Goth or Industrial rock. Its a simple Visual Kei group. --Ada Kataki (talk) 09:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Visual kei is not a musical genre, this has been discussed a hundred times, their music is gothic, and if you dispute that, then I would assume you are in the "goth" scene, in which case you may have a conflict of interest. --Jacob ^Talk 16:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

J-Rock is a music genre. Listen to Gothic. Blood has nothing to do with Gothic rock. --Ada Kataki (talk) 20:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Early albums they do indentify with the Visual scene, but their later albums are more along the lines of Gothic/Darkwave and Industrial influences. I understand that it's aggravating trying to explain to people that a majority of the bands that fall under the Visual category are not Gothic (rock) at all despite their appearence, but you might want to actually listen to BLOOD's later music before making that statement.JanderVK (talk) 03:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The tracks in MySpace aren't Goth. The guitars are Hardrock/Metal, the beats are Techno/Dance. There is nothing Goth or Darkwave. --Ada Kataki (talk) 22:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there you are. You don't even own any of their recordings, let alone the one that I was refering to (The Reaper Behind Me). So with all respect, I don't think you really have any right to come here and say what they are and aren't, especially to start messing with the page. To call them "metal" and "techno" is quite a stretch. I doubt any metal or techno fans would agree. They have elements of Industrial rock, Darkwave, and Japanese rock influences. It's a very diverse album. Infact, I recommend downloading (legally ofcourse ;) the "BLOOD (feat. Exo-Chika from Aural Vampire)" track off of The Reaper Behind Me, it reminds me of a London After Midnight or Element song (and my favorite track on the album). Better yet, download the THE LAST DANCE remix of the song also. They may not always have been as heavily influenced by Industrial rock and Darkwave/Goth in the past, but sure are now.JanderVK (talk) 07:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We can't determine the style of this group because that would be putting unverifiable information into the article. Style is argued so often on wikipedia that any style/genre information should be attributed to a source. If we have conflicting sources, they can be addressed in the body of the article. Blood has changed their style so if you listen to different releases, you will hear different styles. Denaar (talk) 17:18, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If any style/genre information is argued, then it is Wkipedia's responsibility to cover the divergence of opinion on that particular subject, and stress the definition that is agreed upon as being exactly that. However, that is not the fault of the article. The fault of the article is that it should be about Blood (Ger), a noteworthy musical act that established a distinctive sound within the Grindcore genre. This is a band that is mentioned on a music site that is actually authoritative -- and, to get back to the previous comment, just because there are opinions in music classification does not mean there are no accepted opinions. For example, www.anus.com has auhtoritative commentary on Blood (Ger). Or try Blood (Ger)'s page on the Metal Archives, where they are also classified accurately, according to most.(http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=2752). The above commentor is saying that because it's argued a lot we cannot define it. Nonsense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbettino (talk • contribs) 08:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you here to argue issues of notability of these two bands, or to argue the genre of the band that is currently housed at this page. It's not very effective to argue about the genre of a different band that doesn't share an musical characteristics, simply to prove the point that another site will label a band something, despite and controversy, and can do so without third-party reliable sources.

As much as you think you can pinpoint a bands genre yourself, and as "correct" as you may be, a page requires citation in order to say anything is definite. This carries over into your contesting the notability of Blood from Japan as opposed to Blood from Germany. Because both bands are relatively minute in the greater scope of all rock music, the ability to size their "importance" is very difficult. While Blood from Germany may have far more recognition in the metal community, the Blood from Japan will see a heightened awareness in anything relating to Japanese culture. Asserting the importance of one interest group over the other will, again, become difficult, and really has no correct answer, only one with more feisty support than the other. If it comes down to a situation where either Blood band must prove its dominance, one will have to go to record sales and distribution variety. If you come up with hard statistics for this, feel free to make a stronger case that focuses on only one issue. Cheers. --Jacob ^Talk 22:54, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]