Talk:Black Widower/GA1
GA Review
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Overall, this is quite a good article. I have a few concerns, but none are too major:
"marries his Aunt Selma" - the way the sentence is written, "his" seems to refer to Sideshow Bob, not Bart."does not believe that he married her out of love, but rather, he believes that he is planning..." - that's a lot of "he"s. Perhaps simplifying it would help, such as "Bart believes that Bob is planning something sinister rather than marrying for love."?"by asking Selma to marry him, who eagerly accepts" - this is a little awkward. Perhaps "by proposing to Selma, who eagerly accepts"?"it nearly revokes the marriage" - "revokes" seems like a strange choice of words.- Got a suggestion for a better word? :)
- I'm not sure. Perhaps "...cannot hide his hatred, the marriage is nearly called off"?
- Got a suggestion for a better word? :)
Since it is so important to the plot, it should probably be clarified that it is a gas fireplace the first time it is mentioned."we see their hotel room explode behind him" - I don't like how this suddenly shifts to "we". How about "the hotel room explodes behind him"?"We discover that Selma is unscathed,..." - same thing here. How about just removing "We discover that"?"for framing an armed robbery" - this sounds awkward. Perhaps "for framing Krusty the Clown for armed robbery"?"Patty and Selma's obsession with the character MacGyver from the television show MacGyver" - to break up the repetition, I feel like including MacGyver's first name would help: "Patty and Selma's obsession with the character Angus MacGyver from the television show MacGyver". Because his first name is never mentioned on The Simpsons, however, this is definitely not necessary if you don't like it.I think "Batmobile" should be capitalized, but I'm not 100% certain.The lead section doesn't seem to provide an overview of the full article. Because the reader is supposed to have a brief but reasonably complete understanding of the key points after reading the lead, I believe that more of the plot should be discussed. Only the key points should be included, however. Perhaps "Bart realizes that Bob is planning to kill Selma; he prevents the attempted murder, and Bob is sent back to prison."?It has been a while since I watched the episode. Is anything said about why Bob initiated the romance, only to try to kill Selma?- I don't think so. If you want to you can watch the episode here yourself.
- I've got the DVD, so I just watched it. It is implied, though not stated directly, that Bob is repulsed by Selma (his reaction when Selma invites him to have sex on the honeymoon video, and his frantic scrubbing in the bathroom after sex) and that he was after her money (she bought stock in a mace company just before society crumbled...since Bart is shown processing this fact, like the other clues, it can be assumed that this was his reason). However, I don't know if this information can be added, as there is no explicit source other than the episode itself. I guess it could be added without drawing the connection (eg. "While planning the wedding, Selma reveals that she is unconcerned about money, as she made a good profit in the stock market; Bob states that he hopes that nobody thinks that he is marrying her for the money.") GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Great. I added that to the article. Theleftorium 17:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- I've got the DVD, so I just watched it. It is implied, though not stated directly, that Bob is repulsed by Selma (his reaction when Selma invites him to have sex on the honeymoon video, and his frantic scrubbing in the bathroom after sex) and that he was after her money (she bought stock in a mace company just before society crumbled...since Bart is shown processing this fact, like the other clues, it can be assumed that this was his reason). However, I don't know if this information can be added, as there is no explicit source other than the episode itself. I guess it could be added without drawing the connection (eg. "While planning the wedding, Selma reveals that she is unconcerned about money, as she made a good profit in the stock market; Bob states that he hopes that nobody thinks that he is marrying her for the money.") GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think so. If you want to you can watch the episode here yourself.
Overall, the article is quite well-written. There are no problems with images, stability, or neutrality. Much of the information uses a primary source, but I'm not concerned about this because it is probably the best (only?) way to find out information about the writers' thought processes when writing the episode. I will place this nomination on hold for a week to allow for these concerns to be addressed or discussed. I have this page on my watchlist, so any responses can be left here. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:47, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! :) Theleftorium 16:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Not a problem. Thanks for the quick replies. Since everything meets the GA criteria, I am promoting this article. Great job! GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you. I will do Talk:Bart's Friend Falls in Love/GA1 tomorrow. Theleftorium 17:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Not a problem. Thanks for the quick replies. Since everything meets the GA criteria, I am promoting this article. Great job! GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)