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Nomenclature

Isn't this also the "official" name of the Jewish Autonomous Oblast? -RomeW 11:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What are you referring to when you say "this"? If you mean "Birobidzhan", then no, it is not.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 13:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But unofficial alternative name, yes. :J //Big Adamsky 13:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having lived in the area for years, I've never heard the whole JAO to be referred to as "Birobidzhan". It is the second time I hear this version on Wikipedia, however. Could you tell me what the origin of this statement is?—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 13:32, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have only oral references, sorry buddy. But you could always do a search... //Big Adamsky 14:01, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I tried last time and found nothing. Perhaps, that's an informal reference used by the English speakers? Or perhaps people were referring to "Birobidzhan area", i.e., area immediately around the city? In any case, this is all speculation which does not merit inclusion in the article.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 14:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is informal usage. Used outside Russia, I would guess. //Big Adamsky 15:27, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in a Jewish history class and my professor used it as the name of the area. Hence why I thought it's the official name.-RomeW 23:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here in Israel, in history class, the plans for Jewish settlement are known as the Birobidzhan plan and the Krim plan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.68.162.42 (talk) 15:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lies on two rivers?

That's not true. Only river Bira runs through Birobidzhan. Bidzhan is the river similar to Bira and it flows into the Amur upstream. Bira and Bidzhan are just two largest rivers in Jewish Autonomous Oblast. I'll add this information to the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Prokatit (talk • contribs) 13:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

History

It's too bad, there doesn't seem to be a history section in this article? Or, maybe I'm missing it? -Dan Carkner 99.240.219.153 16:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A history section has been added in December, 2016; the history and culture sections have been updated through a group project by students at Arizona State University in Spring, 2019. B.M. Adkins 05:30, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Map does not show where Birobidzhan is

The map is of the whole of Russia (and a number of other countries, maybe). It's ver unclear. It certainly not a map of Birobidzhan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.126.59.181 (talk) 13:31, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is a map of the whole Russia (and certainly just Russia :)), and the dot is where Birobidzhan is located. Unfortunately, no closer map is available, so we have to make do with this one. Alternatively, you can click on the globe icon in the top right corner of the articles (where the coordinates are shown) to see a pop-up map, which you can zoom in or out, or you can click on the coordinates and select one of the mapping services to see a close-up. Hope this helps.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protecting Secular Jews?

The article states:

"According to The New York Times, Stalin established the city to protect secular Jews."

The article says nothing of the kind, and the statement is ludicrous. The article states: "In 1932, during the Great Depression, his family emigrated to Birobidzhan, a Siberian city that Stalin promoted as a secular Jewish homeland." That too is inaccurate, since it was an autonomous region and not a city, but it was not established to "protect secular Jews." [[[User:Mewnews|Mewnews]] (talk) 09:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)][reply]

spelling

Soviet Yiddish does not spell final letters, e.g. נ is used, not ן . Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 16:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HISTORY?

How is there NOTHING about Birobidzhan during World War Two? This is ludicrous! Morris (talk) 00:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this article could be a really interesting article if more people were working on it. It's quite neglected. I'm afraid you'll probably have to add material yourself. I've been looking through sources recently but I doubt that I'll ever have time to do anything. Still, at least the Stalin's Forgotten Zion: Birobidzhan and the Making of a Soviet Jewish Homeland: An Illustrated History, 1928-1996 external link is there and that's quite a nice site. Sean.hoyland - talk 06:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A history section has been added in December, 2016; the history and culture sections have been updated through a group project by students at Arizona State University in Spring, 2019. B.M. Adkins 05:30, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

did the name is this town change recently?

in my hammond concise world atlas printed in 2006 it has the name of the town as Birobijan 76.211.5.253 (talk) 14:23, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, "Birobijan" and "Birobidzhan" are simply different "transliterations of the Russian name "Биробиджан" (with the former being rather uncommon). There are also other variants besides these two. Hope this helps,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 17, 2011; 15:08 (UTC)

Russian wiki info on education in the city

QUOTE Science and Education The city operated 34 municipal educational institutions, including 18 kindergartens, 14 schools, musical and art schools. August 28, 2010 the official opening of the new building of school № 1. [5] Work of children's art center, vocational schools, colleges, technical schools. The city has one federal university and several branches outside of universities: Amur State University named after Sholom Aleichem (PSU them. Sholom Aleichem) [6] (from 1989 to 2005 - Birobidzhan State Pedagogical Institute, BSPI, from 2005 to 2011 - Far Eastern State Academy of socio-humanitarian, DVGSGA); Far Eastern Branch of the State Agrarian University (DalGAU); branch of the Khabarovsk State Academy of Economics and Law (HGAEiP); branch of the Amur State University (ASU); branch of Modern Humanitarian Academy (SHA). In 1990 in Birobidzhan branch of the institute established the Jewish National Problems of Education , Ministry of Education and Science , a leading research institution on the development of content and methods of Jewish education in Russia. When PSU them. Sholom Aleichem, a Center of learning the language and culture of Yiddish (Yiddish, with the assistance of the Centre to them. Rena Costa at Bar-Ilan University , Israel), Birobidzhan branch of the Russian Philosophical Society , Birobidzhan branch of the Asia-Pacific Association of Teachers of Russian Language and Literature. Scientific services in the field of agriculture implements Birobidzhan Agricultural Experiment Station. Academic institutions (of Sciences ) Institute of Complex Analysis of Regional Problems , Far Eastern Branch of Russian Academy of Sciences (IKARP). G. Robert Shiplett 13:15, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

So, why post this on the talk page rather than clean it up and add to our article instead?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 27, 2012; 13:47 (UTC)

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Jewish Autonomous Region in the History section

As Jews within regions of Soviet control lost their livelihoods due to the elimination of the private sector, they began to work in collective farms. Financial aid from Western Jewish organizations allowed them to build these settlements,particularly in Ukraine and Belarus, raising concerns with the local farmers that they were being edged out. Soviet and Jewish community leadership alike realized the developing problem. Other ethnic groups had already been given "nationhood" within the Soviet Union and the Soviet leadership aimed to do the same with the Jewish population. Birobidzhan provided seclusion and autonomy for Soviet Jews, an answer that seemed to appeal to both sides. Despite warnings from agronomists concerning the viability of the terrain, the government moved to settle the region in April of 1928. Those who settled either came from abroad, having fled the Russian empire preceding the rise of the Soviets, and those of the collective farms in Ukraine and Belarus. There was no infrastructure to speak of and food had to be grown themselves. Having realized this upon arrival, many of the settlers turned back almost immediately. Those who remained created several collective farms, however many of those arriving had not worked in farms prior to settling. Additionally, they faced natural obstacles such as heavy rains and flooding, long winters, and hostile wildlife.

John-sagar (talk) 00:50, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Let me know if you have any comments or questions, Thanks

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^ Gessen, Masha (2016). Where the Jews Aren't: The Sad and Absurd Story of Birobidzhan, Russia's Jewish Autonomous Region. New York: Schocken Books. ISBN 9780805242461.

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'Population' Section: Please Help Improve

Hello! I have removed the census data from the lead, since it seemed out of place (and copyedited the rest). The compiled population data is now in a new section, but unfortunately I don't really know how to put the links in order. They seem to keep their numbered link order, but they are not well placed chronologically. If someone knows how to fix and/or expand this new section, please do.

Thanks! Double Plus Ungood (talk) 04:12, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You were generally on the right track, but note that it is the most recent Census population (not the estimate) that's normally left in the lead, and that the link order does not really matter, regardless of whether it matches the actual order or not (refs can be re-used throughout the text and retain their "link numbers"; not much that can or should be done about that).

Anyway, I've replaced your "Population" section with a population summary box (sections should contain some narrative to justify their existence, not just a dump of stats). Let me know if you have any questions, though. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); March 27, 2018; 18:35 (UTC)

[Gessen-1] Gessen, Masha (2016). Where the Jews Aren't: The Sad and Absurd Story of Birobidzhan, Russia's Jewish Autonomous Region. New York: Schocken Books. ISBN 9780805242461.

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