Talk:Bioeconomics (fisheries)

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No to merging

I see no reason to merge this article with Economics of biodiversity since it is hard to find any linkage. Bioeconomics was developed from fisheries economics in the 1950ies and a couple of seminal articles by Canadian economists could be mentioned. Biodiversity is a quite new term and the economics of biodiversity fairly unknown and quite vague. Will ‘Economics of biodiversity’ be within the area of economic theories in fifty years from now? ----Arnejohs 13:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

why the clean up tag

artical needs headings bascally thats all tell me when it does i remove the tag just leave a meassage on my talk page okOo7565 21:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 11:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Section on energy and thermodynamic

Added section on Thermoeconomics and energy accounting.. some interesting citations on ecological bio-economics skip sievert (talk) 17:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Intro sentence is unclear

The second sentence of the intro is too long, too formal and unclear. I cannot copy-edit it because I do not know exactly what it is trying to say. -Pgan002 (talk) 03:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, makes no sense to me either. Nor do these recent additions about something called thermoeconomics, which seem, at best, rather fringe. --Geronimo20 (talk) 04:09, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you do not understand what the article is about in regard to other aspects... This is a formatting discussion. There is more than fisheries connected things with this subject. The article is about this also. http://ecen.com/eee9/ecoterme.htm

ECONOMY AND THERMODYNAMICS , and http://www.eoearth.org/article/Biophysical_economics

Biophysical economics - Encyclopedia of Earth -- I am going to try and do some editing here in the next couple of days. skip sievert (talk) 04:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the sentence to: "It is an attempt to bridge the empirical culture of biology and the theoretical culture of economics, through interdisciplinary methodology such as environmental economics and ecological economics." I do not know these disciplines can be called interdisciplinary methodology. Also, are these disciplines are sub-fields (branches) of bioeconomics? -Pgan002 (talk) 23:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Environmental economics

Here is a link that goes to this section... on Economics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics#Environmental_economics Economics -

Environmental economics is concerned with issues related to degradation, enhancement, or preservation of the environment. In particular, public bads from production or consumption, such as air pollution, can lead to market failure. The subject considers how public policy can be used to correct such failures. Policy options include regulations that reflect cost-benefit analysis or market solutions that change incentives, such as emission fees or redefinition of property rights.^[1]^[2]

Environmental economics is related to ecological economics but there are differences.^[3] Most environmental economists have been trained as economists. They apply the tools of economics to address environmental problems, many of which are related to so-called market failures--circumstances wherein the "invisible hand" of economics is unreliable.^[4] Most ecological economists have been trained as ecologists, but have expanded the scope of their work to consider the impacts of humans and their economic activity on ecological systems and services, and vice-versa. This field takes as its premise that economics is a strict subfield of ecology. Ecological economics is sometimes described as taking a more pluralistic approach to environmental problems and focuses more explicitly on long-term environmental sustainability and issues of scale.

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I will go through the edit you made now... and then check mine again please. skip sievert (talk) 02:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Kneese, Allen K., and Clifford S. Russell (1987). "environmental economics," The New Palgrave: A Dictionary of Economics, v. 2, pp. 159-64.
^ Samuelson, Paul A., and William D. Nordhaus (2004). Economics, ch. 18, "Protecting the Environment." McGraw-Hill.
^ http://www.eoearth.org/by/Topic/Ecological%20economics
^ "Environmental Economics". NBER Working Group Descriptions. National Bureau of Economic Research. Retrieved 2006-07-23.

History contradiction

The History section says that Gordon and Scott produced ideas in 1954-1955 that used ideas from 1957. -Pgan002 (talk) 03:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linkback to Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen

I came to this page via a link to bioeconomics from Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen, but there's no mention here of it. I'm not strong enough to write content on this, but essentially think that something is missing. Daviding (talk) 16:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. See my comment below. Ledjazz (talk) 07:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

bioeconomics isn't really ecological economics

Bioeconomics is typically using neoclassical economics models as applied to things like fisheries. Ecological economics is something quite different. Calling bioeconomics both ecological and normal econ is a little weird. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.55.83 (talk) 23:58, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. In fact, there is an ambiguity with the term bioeconomics which can refer either to biological economics (article herein) and biophyscial economics (which is also confused with thermoeconomics, but this is another issue...). As a result, I suggest to make bioeconomics a disambiguation page and then redirect to bioeconomics (biology) and bioeconomics (biophysical) in an attempt to address the concerns. Ledjazz (talk) 07:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Kneese, Allen K., and Clifford S. Russell (1987). "environmental economics," The New Palgrave: A Dictionary of Economics, v. 2, pp. 159-64.

[2] Samuelson, Paul A., and William D. Nordhaus (2004). Economics, ch. 18, "Protecting the Environment." McGraw-Hill.

[3] ttp://www.eoearth.org/by/Topic/Ecological%20economics

[4] "Environmental Economics". NBER Working Group Descriptions. National Bureau of Economic Research. Retrieved 2006-07-23.

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