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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 10:47, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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- ... that Binggrae (logo pictured), a South Korean food and beverage company, was the official ice cream supplier of the 1988 Seoul Olympics? Source: https://terms.naver.com/entry.naver?cid=43167&docId=649950&categoryId=43167
ALT1: ... that Binggrae, a South Korean food and beverage corporation, acquired a company with an argument that it would block Lotte Confectionery from monopolizing the South Korean Ice Cream Market and raising prices, then raised prices of its products shortly after?Source: https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/tech/2022/05/419_323188.html— Preceding unsigned comment added by Haiiya (talk • contribs) 19:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Södermanland Runic Inscription 113
Created by Haiiya (talk). Self-nominated at 06:34, 15 May 2022 (UTC).
- New enough and long enough. Sources look OK and I didn't find any copyright issues, relying largely on AGF for Korean-language sources. Some statements have no citation, which especially is serious in the Controversy section, which also preferably should be reworked a bit and called something else per WP:CSECTION. I struck out ALT1 which is longer than 200 characters. ALT0 is interesting and short, although I couldn't find anything about the Olympics in the provided source, using an online translator. Can you point out where in the text it is, or is there an error here? Ffranc (talk) 12:04, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Ffranc It's there, it comes out in the source as "1988년 9월 서울올림픽 아이스크림 공식 공급업체에 선정되었다." which roughly translates to --> "In September 1988, it was selected as an official ice cream supplier for the Seoul Olympics." Also, the controversy is backed up, but if you want additional sources I can try looking for some. Haiiya (talk) 12:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I see the part about the Olympics now. For some reason it didn't appear the first time I machine translated the page. I don't think you need additional sources for the controversy section, just make sure every paragraph has at least one citation at the end. If all the info is in the same source, just use it multiple times. But there are some other parts of the article that are partially or wholly unsourced, like Main products and Slogans. (Another thing I spotted is that the QPQ is for a nomination that already had been reviewed by another user, shortly before you added your review. But since this is your first DYK, you don't need to review anything, so this is a non-issue.) Ffranc (talk) 12:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- The main products are backed up, but the slogans are from the ko wikipedia. I think I can find a source for one or two slogans but the rest are unsourced. I have a feeling that the people on ko wikipedia got that information from namu wiki, which is an entirely unsourced wiki but is probably accurate as many people look at it (not saying I should use it). Haiiya (talk) 13:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- I added citation needed templates where I think sources are missing, or it's unclear if some other citation covers these statements too. All the slogans may not be relevant even if you find sources, so the best solution might be to just delete the list, and perhaps mention the ones you can find sources for in other sections. The data about revenues in the infobox is also missing citations, so I tagged that too. Sorry to bicker about this, it's a nice and interesting article, there are just some details that need to be fixed before it's ready to be on the main page. Ffranc (talk) 13:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's fine :). I'll look into sources for the revenue (also from ko wikipedia) and delete the slogans section. Other sections should be adequately sourced. Haiiya (talk) 14:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Ffranc I think the article is good to go now! Haiiya (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Looks good, well done! Ffranc (talk) 11:45, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Ffranc I think the article is good to go now! Haiiya (talk) 14:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's fine :). I'll look into sources for the revenue (also from ko wikipedia) and delete the slogans section. Other sections should be adequately sourced. Haiiya (talk) 14:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- I added citation needed templates where I think sources are missing, or it's unclear if some other citation covers these statements too. All the slogans may not be relevant even if you find sources, so the best solution might be to just delete the list, and perhaps mention the ones you can find sources for in other sections. The data about revenues in the infobox is also missing citations, so I tagged that too. Sorry to bicker about this, it's a nice and interesting article, there are just some details that need to be fixed before it's ready to be on the main page. Ffranc (talk) 13:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- The main products are backed up, but the slogans are from the ko wikipedia. I think I can find a source for one or two slogans but the rest are unsourced. I have a feeling that the people on ko wikipedia got that information from namu wiki, which is an entirely unsourced wiki but is probably accurate as many people look at it (not saying I should use it). Haiiya (talk) 13:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I see the part about the Olympics now. For some reason it didn't appear the first time I machine translated the page. I don't think you need additional sources for the controversy section, just make sure every paragraph has at least one citation at the end. If all the info is in the same source, just use it multiple times. But there are some other parts of the article that are partially or wholly unsourced, like Main products and Slogans. (Another thing I spotted is that the QPQ is for a nomination that already had been reviewed by another user, shortly before you added your review. But since this is your first DYK, you don't need to review anything, so this is a non-issue.) Ffranc (talk) 12:59, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Ffranc It's there, it comes out in the source as "1988년 9월 서울올림픽 아이스크림 공식 공급업체에 선정되었다." which roughly translates to --> "In September 1988, it was selected as an official ice cream supplier for the Seoul Olympics." Also, the controversy is backed up, but if you want additional sources I can try looking for some. Haiiya (talk) 12:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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