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Atlantis
[edit]"To others, the Bimini Road is an ancient road, or perhaps a collapsed wall of the civilization of Atlantis. "
Why do people assume it was Atlantis?
Plato made up an island for one of his epic stories. That's why it's called literature though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Plato a philosopher, not a historian?
- I believe that Plato, in this instance can be seen as both a philosopher and a historian. He is passing on a story someone told him - oral history.Drakonicon 18:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- Any proof? One does not necessarily "make things up" for literature. Troy was not made up for Homer's stories, for example. We do not have access to the mind of Plato, and thus there is no way to know if he made it up or not. Of course if someone actually _did_ discover Atlantis then that would suggest that he did *not* make it up, but proving that he *did* make it up is a whole different ball game, and we just cannot do that. PS. I don't think that the Bimini Road *must* have been from Atlantis -- nothing like it was mentioned in Plato's dialogues, so even if Atlantis did exist there would still be no reason to think that a connection must exist as well. 170.215.83.212 03:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
They menstion lack of convincing evidence about the hypothisis of the imperial fleet but, I don't see anyone puting up any evidence of, the alians helped the imagianary Atlantians build it....
One reason I can think of that Bimini ROad is being investigated with the mindset that it may yield portions of an Atlantean sub-continent, is that Edgar Cayce cited Bimini, Azores, and Yucatan (I think?) as yielding Atlantean artifacts. There were three places he mentioned, cant rememebr just now, sorry. Anyway, Dr. Greg Little is one of many ARE investigators who have taken the Bimini hypothesis seriously. (see Links section below) Drakonicon 16:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Plato's Atlantis is not necessarily the real Atlantis (if there was one). Plato just reported what he learned in Egypt. However, It could be well possible that he altered the report to what he imagined would be an ideal society; to inspire the fellow citizens of greece.
- However, what I am missing in this article: I think the Bimini Road stones where carbon dated to ~1500 BC. If that's true it does not match the usual atlantis timeframe; same as Santoria. However, I cant find a reliable source for that now. 85.176.178.0 19:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Actually Plato was telling what Solon was supposedly told by an Egyptian priest - only the story isn't mentioned anywhere in the historical record at all and mentions Athens. Problem is that the timeframe is all wrong and at the time the story says the Athens-Atlantis war was fought, Athens was at best a collection of mud muts. Darkmind1970 15:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Graham Hancock suggests that the Bimini Road is shown on that island top-left of the Piri Reis map and that now the island is under water. -- Barecode (talk) 07:56, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NGfNMb5p2Y at 7:20 Kdammers (talk) 19:34, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- We really need to set up archiving here. Doug Weller talk 20:44, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Autoarchive enabled (and this thread will not expire until 60 days of inactivity, of course). Hancock is not a reliable source, but when independent RS report about his notable views they can sometimes be mentioned and put in context with the analysis of that source. —PaleoNeonate – 20:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- We really need to set up archiving here. Doug Weller talk 20:44, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NGfNMb5p2Y at 7:20 Kdammers (talk) 19:34, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
- Graham Hancock suggests that the Bimini Road is shown on that island top-left of the Piri Reis map and that now the island is under water. -- Barecode (talk) 07:56, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Dredged up stones
[edit]There are sources [1] [2] claiming that many stones were dredged up in 1920's. I added the latter to the external links, but it's an important detail to include in the main body of the article once someone could find a reliable source to back it up firmly. Logos (talk) 11:39, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
clarity regarding age
[edit]Totally confusing jargon:
reported dates of 2780±70 (UM-1359), 3500±80 (UM-1360), and 3350±90 (UM-1361) from whole-rock samples; a date of 3510±70 (UM-1362), from shells extracted from the beachrock core; and dates of 2770±80 (UM-1364) and 2840±70 (UM-1365)
First, do these numbers refer to AGES or DATES? Seems they are AGES, but the term "dates" is used. Important difference.
Second, what is all the UM stuff? Needs clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.111.150.56 (talk) 12:03, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
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No image of underwater feature?
[edit]As stated, why isnt an image of the structure being included? It's an article on a feature that isnt even being shown within the article. The bird's eye view of the island doesnt seem sufficient. 172.101.101.107 (talk) 21:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- No such images are currently available on Wikipedia or Wikimedia. If you have one with an appropriate license (e.g. CC BY-SA) please upload it and add it to the article. Hypnôs (talk) 22:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- None are included in the article because the copyrights, which the existing images have been published under, prevents their use in Wikipedia. If someone out there, who dives in the Bahamas and is an underwater photographer, was to take their own original photographs of it and donate them to Wikimedia under an appropriate license (e.g. CC BY-SA), this action would be greatly appreciated. For example, a diver graciously has already done this for the Yonaguni Monument. Paul H. (talk) 02:05, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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