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2012 October editing war

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(Was: Japanese title posts are no longer allowed in Bilibili Douga)

IP user 114.83.112.204 is reverting my reverts of his edits and ignoring my requests for discussion about four points

For the purpose of negotiation and documentation, I list the edit history and my opinions here. I plan to request for semi-protection to force a discussion if this effort of negotiation is further ignored.

The IP user insists adding the four points:

  1. Content about a personal website of the founder of the website Bilibili that has no relevance or affiliation to Bilibili.
  2. A reference of a journal interview of the founder of the website Bilibili, which has been integrated into the article as the first reference and cited from various places.
  3. Two controversies inside the website community with entirely unreliable and unverifiable sources from Baidu Tieba, an online pseudonymous forum.

My opinions about these points:

  1. The personal website is irrelevant to the website Bilibili itself, and therefore should not be added in this article. The personal website could be added to the article on the founder of the website Bilibili, if there is one.
  2. The journal interview is a valuable source supporting many facts in the article as a reference. Literal repeating the event of the interview is unnecessary. The literal event of a startup company getting interviewed by a newly founded journal is not any kind of more newsworthy fact. But this is discussable.
  3. Baidu Tieba is an unreliable source. Content with unreliable sources should be removed as per the verifiability policy. I don't doubt the honesty of the IP user, but lack of evidence will not establish the facts he wants to add.

History of actions taken:

Iconv (talk) 07:52, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen this yet,sorry.kami.im is my own want to add it in this so I won't add it anymore.Now the 15 October 2012 happening is already on the Chinese ver Wikipedia with a detailed information,hope you can add it because my English is not good anyway.
Whatever Baidu Tieba is a reliable source or not,the leaked pictures on these posts tell the truth about these happening on bilibili. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.83.112.204 (talk) 05:07, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The information you added is valuable. Actually the entire rewrite was motivated by the journal interview provided by you. That has crucial information to improve the article. I well believe the incidents (including the 15 October 2012 one) you described happened. But without reliable sources, I'm unable to demonstrate and prove such facts to other readers. I hope you understand you can't talk about facts with just some random posts on the Internet that anyone can fabricate without actual evidence. The section you referred to on the Chinese Wikipedia is there not because it should be there. I wanted to remove that section for lacking reliable sources, but as there is also editing war going on there, I have not.
Maybe you have certain misunderstanding of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not about truth; Wikipedia is about reliability: as things get complex, there will not be an objective truth. I suggest you read the three core policies of Wikipedia (Chinese version).
Think about it. Maybe you think it is a serious problem for now, but after one year, how important will it be? Iconv (talk) 12:44, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
both "Japanese title posts are no longer allowed in Bilibili Douga" and the 15 October 2012 happening cause a heavy shock to the bilibili users that they can't view and review some old videos any more.and that interview tells about how bilibili works and a little about bilibili's future.
Unfortunately I can't write them in more detail because my poor English,sometimes makes me don't know how to express them and make a lot of misspell and grammar error.

PLZ improve the language skill

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The article is full of sentences which do not make any sence to English speakers. Plz improve the quality of language and help the article readable. THX. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.167.17.160 (talk) 05:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy up the talk page. You can post questions about English grammar and usage at Wikipedia's language and grammar desk. More information can be found in Wikipedia:Writing better articles.--49.66.49.111 (talk) 05:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Danmu vs Danmaku?

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The "feature" section use a term "danmu" to define the real-time comment system of Bilibili, but it seems like "danmaku" is a more common word for it in English articles. [1] [2] [3]

On the other hand, I can't find some good reference for "danmu". Moreover, the existing reference for the word "danmu" at current version is even not an English article - and the English title of the article shown at the citing also can't be found anywhere. So no way to think of the article referenced shows "danmu" as the English-translated term.

I think it's better to replace "danmu" with the more common term "danmaku".--Dongshannaiyang (talk) 09:41, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Wu, Zechen; Ito, Eisuke (2014). "Correlation analysis between user's emotional comments and popularity measures.". 2014 IIAI 3rd International Conference. Advanced Applied Informatics (IIAIAAI). IEEE. pp. 280–283.
  2. ^ Chen, Yue; Gao, Qing (2015). "Understanding gratifications of watching danmaku videos–videos with overlaid comments.". CCD 2015: Cross-Cultural Design Methods, Practice and Impact. International Conference on Cross-Cultural Design. Springer. pp. 153–163.
  3. ^ Leng, Jing; Zhu, Jiayu (2016). "Identifying the Potential of Danmaku Video from Eye Gaze Data.". 2016 IEEE 16th International Conference. Advanced Learning Technologies (ICALT). IEEE. pp. 288–292.

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COI

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Hi @1292simon: I saw you added the COI tag several times. Could you please point out which major contributor appears to have a close connection with bilibili？Cordially, -- Akira😼CA 10:44, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Akira_CA. It is user Marven Twen who appears to have a close connection with the company. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 10:02, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Now I see that the editor appears to be a single-purpose account and a COI investigation might be necessary. -- Akira😼CA 11:15, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It seems excessive to tag the whole article, as the user in question has made a total of 7 edits to the article from what I can see, and hardly seems to have had that much impact. Their involvement has been more with Chen Rui, which now redirects here. Greenman (talk) 11:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bilibili or bilibili?

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This uncommented edit changed the article title to lowercase, but I don't see a good reason for this. Any objections to moving it back? Greenman (talk) 11:32, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stylization as bïlïbïlï

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The logo for Bilibili splits the dot for the i's. Faster than Thunder (talk) 02:41, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA22 - Sect 201 - Thu

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 September 2022 and 8 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Lbw119 (article contribs).

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Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA22 - Sect 200 - Thu

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 22 September 2022 and 8 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Luciuszlt (article contribs).

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