Talk:Big Long Slidin' Thing

A fact from Big Long Slidin' Thing appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 January 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a ranking of the greatest double-entendre songs of all time included "Big Long Slidin' Thing" by Dinah Washington (pictured), "Need a Little Sugar in My Bowl" by Bessie Smith, "It Ain't the Meat (It's the Motion)" by the Swallows, "Keep On Churnin' (Till the Butter Comes)" by Wynonie Harris, and "Big Ten Inch Record" by Aerosmith?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Yoninah (talk) 22:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This nomination has been moved to the multi-article Template:Did you know nominations/Keep On Churnin' (Till the Butter Comes)

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Dinah Washington, 1952

... that Dinah Washington (pictured) praised her trombonist/"daddy" for his capacity to slide his "Big Long Slidin' Thing" "right up here" then "slide it back again"? Source: Here: "Well, the first time he played, I ask him how it was done. He said, 'Then I work my fingers and my thumb! I slide it right up, Then I slide it back again And I get a lot o' wind, And then I slide it back again!' That is my daddy With that big long sliding thing, oh yeah!"
- ALT1:... that "Big Long Slidin' Thing" by Dinah Washington (pictured) was rated as one of the greatest double entendre songs of all time? Source: Here: "The 19 greatest double entendre songs"

Reviewed: Mitchell Miller

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

This article is new enough and long enough. The image is in the public domain, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Either hook could be used but I prefer ALT1. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:01, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: I am proposing to combine this with Template:Did you know nominations/Need a Little Sugar in My Bowl. What do you think? How would I go about merging the noms? Cbl62 (talk) 03:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be a mistake as you have currently got two brilliant hooks for this nomination. However, it would be possible to combine the others, I suppose. I think total viewership of the articles would be greater if they were listed separately, but it's your call. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. Let's leave this one as is. Cbl62 (talk) 07:27, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cwmhiraeth: I thought about it overnight. I think alt1 is the one most likely to be feature, and it's so similar to the others that I belie a multi is the best way to present these. So I would like to withdraw this so that it can be merged into Template:Did you know nominations/Keep On Churnin' (Till the Butter Comes) which now includes all five songs. Thanks. Cbl62 (talk) 13:07, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the nominator wishes to withdraw this nomination. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Songwriters

The co-writer credit intrigues me. Is it Leroy Kirkland (named in that article as Leroy E. Kirkland, and suggested here as Leroy Edward Kirkland) or Eddie Kirkland (someone else). The present article for this song cites both names, which is obviously a nonsense. Conversely, I don't think co-author Mamie Thomas is disputed anywhere. Thanks, - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ghmyrtle: You may have an interest in, or a view on, this catchy ditty's authorship. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of what Allmusic says, I think it's highly unlikely to be this Eddie Kirkland. Far more likely is Leroy Kirkland, who worked with Washington and many others. But, I don't have definitive proof. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was tending to lean that way. It is that lack of definite proof/reliable source(s), which is so frustrating. Thanks anyway. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 15:08, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leroy Kirkland and Mamie Thomas worked together on other material like this, this, etc.. Clearly, it should be Leroy here. I'll change it... Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are right; the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming. Good old reliable source (ie. it is trustworthy) Discogs agree, which Wikipedia deems 'unreliable'; whilst AllMusic is seen as 'reliable', is a nonsense. I have probably banged on about this previously, but it really annoys me that Wikipedia cover all user-generated sources with the same blanket. Bastards. Anyhow, off my high horse and thanks for the alterations. I have brushed up the article on Leroy Kirkland too. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]