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On 18 March 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved to Big Brother (Belgian TV programme). The result of the discussion was not moved.

Updating Big Brother (Belgian TV series)

To make it more compatible with other Big Brother-pages on this wiki, the main Big Brother page of the Belgian Big Brother has been transformed to a series overview and history, debate and impact of the program in Flanders. The information about housemates and nominations are on the respective page of each season, which has been created. User:SmartGwen 08:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 March 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jack Frost (talk) 04:28, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

– Per WP:NCTV#Non-series television: "Each episode of an on-going show usually is self-contained with little connection to other episodes, other than title, format, hosts, and other on-air personalities". They do not qualify as a "Series television" because they don't "feature recurring settings or characters, or express a unifying narrative theme" as they are not scripted shows.

If you wonder why they are at "series" is because of this despite NCTV already had this distinction mentioned.

Note: Big Brother (French TV series) → Big Brother France is because it is a disambiguation page and there is not a "Big Brother" series. Therefore "Big Brother France" is natural. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 22:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:AINTBROKE. -- Calidum 23:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually broken because these kinds of titles create standardizations in the project, and regardless if they are correct or not, people start to imitate because X article has that style. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Article title should certainly match the type of programming it is. But shouldn't this be applied to every TV reality competition too? – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 23:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC) Oppose following points made by Netoholic. – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 16:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for Hindi, Malayam, Telugu, and Tamil series, because in Indian English, "programme" is the correct spelling aside from the computer program. 36.77.74.149 (talk) 00:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adjusted. I couldn't find which style was used there. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as fundamental misunderstanding of WP:NCTV. Reality shows like Big Brother certainly are not "self-contained with little connection to other episodes" - the cast is generally consistent from episode to episode and there is a narrative order of presentation. WP:NCTV#Series television applies as "made of episodes which may relate part of an unfolding story, feature recurring settings or characters, or express a unifying narrative theme". Check the archives of WT:NCTV for past discussions which resulted in reality competition shows being under "(TV series)". Speedy close. -- Netoholic @ 12:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as per Netoholic's reasoning. Regardless of format used between the different countries the episodes are edited in a way to follow storylines naturally unfolding inside the House of each season. Some countries do use a season/series long "theme" that plays into the storyline in the form of rooms, tasks/competitions, etc. Most regional variants also have the interconnected theme from season to season of "expect the unexpected" as Big Brother "can change the rules at any time." A more traditional game show has different contestants with each episode and stick to a strict set of rules. Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 17:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Netoholic; also adding the program/programme confusion isn't an improvement. Each season of Big Brother features recurring cast members and plotlines, this isn't an anthology-style program. 力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 16:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.